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OK, My statue Stance Justified
From the onset of this latest crusade--my stance on statue removal has been consistent---leave them there and use them to open the conversation
So two nights ago on "The Daily Show"--Trevor Noah interviews an author who has recorded American public lynchings and their locales.
Noah asks if this is not too painful a subject to re-visit?
The author says No--awareness is good to get beyond this---Then he says
You cannot be in Rwanda for a day without hearing of the genocide
In Germany there are markers identifying the holocaust
All to remember the history taken place and learn from it
So that's one
In my own country---a group of unionized teachers wanted the name of our 1st Prime Minister removed from schools for his part in residential schools
2 days later--Our Premier says No---Use it as a teaching moment
That's 2
Closing your eyes does'nt make something go away---I know the white guys Supreme are using it as a rallying point---but when the statues are gone and they are still there---likely they'll just choose another symbol
Ok I'm dun
So two nights ago on "The Daily Show"--Trevor Noah interviews an author who has recorded American public lynchings and their locales.
Noah asks if this is not too painful a subject to re-visit?
The author says No--awareness is good to get beyond this---Then he says
You cannot be in Rwanda for a day without hearing of the genocide
In Germany there are markers identifying the holocaust
All to remember the history taken place and learn from it
So that's one
In my own country---a group of unionized teachers wanted the name of our 1st Prime Minister removed from schools for his part in residential schools
2 days later--Our Premier says No---Use it as a teaching moment
That's 2
Closing your eyes does'nt make something go away---I know the white guys Supreme are using it as a rallying point---but when the statues are gone and they are still there---likely they'll just choose another symbol
Ok I'm dun
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I agree---but i bet his name gets brought into the history lesson when the sites are discussed
Also I wonder if many descendants of the 7th visit this site on American soil https://crazyhorsememorial.org/2016.html (Note---still not a fan of Custer--or his mission)
Hard to re-write history--- and the ones that try---have an agenda for tomorrow
This would be more justified if the statue of General Forest showed him holding a noose. But it doesn't, it depicts him as a conquering hero.
I mean really...who wakes up one day and all of sudden is offended by a Robert E. Lee statue that has been there for years?
Strange society we live in these days.
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Joe, This^^^ This x100. Is this really a difficult concept?
Yeah, but why now? Why do they have to come down now? Don't get me wrong: you can raze these monuments, salt the earth and erect Anne Frank memorials for all I care. I'm just wondering about the timing.
Incidentally, and this is where it gets dicey, a strong plurality of all races are fine with the confederate monuments, including black people. recent polling showed that 44% of blacks thought they should stay and 40% thought they should go. The numbers go up with Whites.
No matter when this happened someone would be saying "why now?"
Because there is money, plenty of money behind this now. This is the face of the new left. If you can't beat them, start a internal war. I can't wait till the minorities get woke and realize who has been holding their chains all theses years. Detroit, Chicago, Memphis. Not republican country. No sir.
Yes. It's difficult to understand why they stood for 8 years under Obama and now after the defeat of the liberal movement by a white dude,,, suddenly it's all about race again.
Well that's certainly true. But its also true that there has been a definite shift in language, a change in tone. For instance, we used to use the term structural or institutional racism, whereas now the preferred term is "white supremacy." Something has changed, and I can't quite put my finger on it. Its probably, as MikeA says, a revitalized, assertive left coupled with widespread revulsion over a newly energized neo-**** movement. Anything that can be done to deny them legitimacy, including taking down their icons, becomes more acceptable by default.
I love the infantilism of black people. Like obviously they are being manipulated, they cannot possibly have developed an opinion on this issue over the decades.
BTW, I personally will ensure that the best and right action is taken on this issue. Forward your donations to "Creekguy Will Fix It" and you will soon be able to have the satisfaction of having helped!
^^^This. That's where I am at. All these years and now all of sudden 2017 arrives and they need to come down?
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If they remove them will your life be ruined?
It just seems that if they are removed---it did'nt happen
Unless you hope the conversation takes place with uninterested history class high school students
Whatever....safe spaces I guess.
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So why is it so important to you that they stay?
Really? Removing the statues erases the existence of the Civil War? If you remove them however, maybe people will stop remembering those traitors as heroes.
https://www.facebook.com/44thNYSVI/posts/1085231261610834
There were 12 people burning that flag, there were more people carrying swastikas, those are the kind of people behind your movement.
I have no problem calling a racist a racist.