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magalloway
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magalloway
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In Fishingcomic's recent post and in several others lately, the term "Middle Class" has been bandied about. I would contend that the term is almost useless in today's society and that it has become a political talking bullet
rather than something which defines a group of citizens. In any case, why don't we set to nailing down just what it is we're talking about when we use this term.
I would contend that the term traditionally referred to a group with some combination of a) an income level somewhat (or even much) higher than wage-earners, b) a level of education beyond the norm, and c) a set rather stodgy values largely ignored by both the Upper and Lower Classes.
Anyway, let's give it our best shot, and comments like "Hex is a bottom-feeding scum-sucker who lives in a cubicle farm and squanders the money he could use to better himself on stupid-looking bicycles," while not required, might lighten the load.
Jim
rather than something which defines a group of citizens. In any case, why don't we set to nailing down just what it is we're talking about when we use this term.
I would contend that the term traditionally referred to a group with some combination of a) an income level somewhat (or even much) higher than wage-earners, b) a level of education beyond the norm, and c) a set rather stodgy values largely ignored by both the Upper and Lower Classes.
Anyway, let's give it our best shot, and comments like "Hex is a bottom-feeding scum-sucker who lives in a cubicle farm and squanders the money he could use to better himself on stupid-looking bicycles," while not required, might lighten the load.
Jim
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Jim
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I agree with comic. Values can be shared across income levels. There are plenty of suburbanites that have the same values as those in trailer parks and brownstones.
Me too..
Mike
Jim
I would guess that pretty much everyone here would be considered middle class.
Mike
Speak for yourself, trailer trash.
Actually if it is not strictly income based then it has no meaning and is completely subjective.
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
I was trying to keep from calling your mullet hillbilly toothless welfare receiving **** out.
Are we still on for that date at Long John Silvers?
That is why I don't do it.
My father taught me that a man who gets up and works to take care of his family is worthy of respect no matter what he does. You know I am not a tradesman, but I have known a few, had to hire a few to do work around the house. Having a degree is not the only way that a man earns value. The time one takes to truly learn a craft is just as long as some college degrees. I don't know about you, but I might be able to pour concrete, but it takes a craftsman to finish concrete and to do it well.
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Sorry. Spent all my cash on that wine and cheese.
What if your brother donated one to you and all you had to pay for the transplant out of pocket was the $50 co-pay?
My treat, I'm trying to break into the lower upper class category.
Where I live, our combined income is considered middle class. Now take our combined income and throw me in the Chicago area or another city with a high cost of living...San Diego, Los Angeles, Boston etc. and I am easily in the poor house.
But that is still all about money, and that is why the typical yearly earning scale of the middle class is so huge.
Agreed. Just thought I would point out that middle class in one location may not be middle class in another location. That is if money is the defining attribute.
I don't think its about money at all. I think Walmart employees and Hedge funders in Newport Beach both think of themselves as middle class. Its really more about values in my opinion. Politicians know this, which is why every word out of their mouths is a paean to their virtues.
But ultimately, if you take income out of it, it's all semantics. It doesn't mean **** besides lip service.
Kanman thought he was a master philosopher. That doesn't mean anyone else thought that.
But that's what I'm saying. Econometric data is the only thing you can actually measure. You can do all kinds of foofy sociological experiments, but you're just playing with words.
Sorry. That's the science background showing through.
It seems as though most here are thinking "middle income", which is not at all the same thing.
No I think Walmart employees see themselves as struggling to make it to the middle class.
Not even close to the same thing. Amen to that.