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U.S. Air and Drone strikes kill more civilians than terrorists
This according to Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International and Malala.
http://rt.com/news/yemen-drone-strikes-report-538/
A new report by Human Rights Watch once again confirms that Hellfire rockets lack selectivity and exterminate women and children more often than they hit Al-Qaeda associates. Last month the UN urged the US to reveal data on civilian drone casualties.
The prominent human rights organization has released a detailed 102-page report on the US drone attacks and airstrikes in Yemen against militants of the Al-Qaeda wing in the country simultaneously with another human rights organization Amnesty International issuing a report on US drone strikes in Pakistan.
Basically, the HRW report has maintained an already widely-known fact that civilians die too often in reported ‘surgical’ strikes which is unacceptable even by the ‘law of war’.
“The US has launched about 80 targeted killing operations in Yemen since 2009,” claims Humans Rights Watch Senior Researcher Letta Tayler.
Still, the HRW report considers only six of them, one of which took place in 2009, and other five occurring in 2012-2013. These six attacks claimed the lives of 82 people, 57 of whom - or practically 70 percent - were civilians.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/10/11/205176/obama-and-first-lady-meet-with.html
"I thanked President Obama for the United States' work in supporting education in Pakistan and Afghanistan and for Syrian refugees," she said in the statement. "I also expressed my concerns that drone attacks are fueling terrorism. Innocent victims are killed in these acts, and they lead to resentment among the Pakistani people. If we refocus efforts on education it will make a big impact."
http://rt.com/news/yemen-drone-strikes-report-538/
A new report by Human Rights Watch once again confirms that Hellfire rockets lack selectivity and exterminate women and children more often than they hit Al-Qaeda associates. Last month the UN urged the US to reveal data on civilian drone casualties.
The prominent human rights organization has released a detailed 102-page report on the US drone attacks and airstrikes in Yemen against militants of the Al-Qaeda wing in the country simultaneously with another human rights organization Amnesty International issuing a report on US drone strikes in Pakistan.
Basically, the HRW report has maintained an already widely-known fact that civilians die too often in reported ‘surgical’ strikes which is unacceptable even by the ‘law of war’.
“The US has launched about 80 targeted killing operations in Yemen since 2009,” claims Humans Rights Watch Senior Researcher Letta Tayler.
Still, the HRW report considers only six of them, one of which took place in 2009, and other five occurring in 2012-2013. These six attacks claimed the lives of 82 people, 57 of whom - or practically 70 percent - were civilians.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/10/11/205176/obama-and-first-lady-meet-with.html
"I thanked President Obama for the United States' work in supporting education in Pakistan and Afghanistan and for Syrian refugees," she said in the statement. "I also expressed my concerns that drone attacks are fueling terrorism. Innocent victims are killed in these acts, and they lead to resentment among the Pakistani people. If we refocus efforts on education it will make a big impact."
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The new World Trade Center opened today. I saw it. It's beautiful.
It's a **** count. 3,000 people in those two towers don't give a ****.
Yeah right. As we imagine the Shangri-la that these places would be, the advances in medicine, the gain in life expectancy to equal that of Japan and then blame the fact that the wildest dreams of the Far Left didn't occur because of the U.S.
We can't run a website, but we've "killed" millions of innocents.
Don't worry Sherb this board won't die until Ed gets his 72 virgins.
That's nasty, had a bad day?
We're fading fast. Pretty soon it'll be just Ed and Hextall and I suspect they're the same guy/lady.
Civilians die in war...it sucks and it is sad, but compared to other wars the amount of civilian casualties is small. I guess we could carpet bomb Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Somali instead.
And lets also not forget how many of these innocent "civilians" where hanging out with Akhmed the IED maker when a hellfire got dropped on his ****?
Maybe we should send more of our soldiers into harms instead of drones so we could have more dead, that would make it all better right?
Actually I had a great day. I was a rock star.
And I did see the new WTC today; it is gorgeous (but it's smaller than the Sears/Willis Tower; meauring by the spire is complete BS)
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
" but the claim that we kill more civilians than terrorists is stupid."
And who did they ask to see if the dead were fine upstanding citizens. Do you believe those 2 organizations don't have their own agenda? Why are they so reputable? Why should the rest of us believe them?
Better question why do we even have these arguments every month or two?
And just in case you weren't planning on viewing it, what the first 30 seconds or so...it is worth your time...
This is from the link I posted, you should read it.
During six weeks in Yemen in 2012-2013, Human Rights Watch researchers interviewed more than 90 people about the strikes including witnesses, relatives of those killed, lawyers, human rights defenders, and government officials. Human Rights Watch reviewed evidence including ordnance and videos from attack sites. Security concerns prevented visits to four of the attack areas.
Ah, right Akhmed's brother in law who builds bombs in his toolshed isn't going to say that Maqmhoud planted IEDs...check
Should we send in drones?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/24/world/africa/nigeria-vessel-attack/
Learn the difference between calling somebody stupid and referring to behavior as stupid.
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
Oh that settles it...HRW and Amnesty International are the authoritative experts on the matter.
FishTX you have been served!
Simply put, your title is misleading, and we are arguing two different issues.
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
This sentence sort of contradicts the first one I quoted, doesn't it?
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
I read his comment as taking your title the same way I did so we both were arguing from what we thought your thread was about rather than what you intended.
Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.