It's up to Congress, now.

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  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,991 Senior Member
    swizz wrote: »
    In my opinion you are right.
    Best course of action based on that: US needs to quit playing into this BS. Pull our **** out of the ME and let them gas themselves into oblivion already.
    Fix our country before we try to play 'world ethics enforcer'... that should be the role of U.N. or NATO
    who the hell do we think we are? fix our own problems here before cramming our ethics down everyone's throats.
    Really sick of us getting into conflicts where we don't belong.
    Dear Obama... I thought you were doing fairly well with foreign relations/policies. Based on this developing event you suck even worse than Bush in the war dept.

    +100.

    I've learned over the past few years that Obama is a not a very self aware person.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,815 Senior Member
    creekguy wrote: »
    So, Assad is a tool of Iran, which is a tool of Russia and Putin. We will be fighting a proxy war against Russian influence in the ME. Nothing has changed since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Am I right?

    Actually, very little has changed since the British and Russian Empires played "The Great Game" in Central Asia for most of the 19th century.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • swizzswizz Senior Member Posts: 2,559 Senior Member
    Listening to Pres Obama's press conference in Sweden this morning.
    He said "I didn't draw a red line, the World did".
    I can agree with that. Let's let "The World" take care of it... or at least pitch in.
    We should not be "The World" red line enforcers. Sole retaliation/enforcement on our part is unwise.
    All of your Trout are belong to me.
  • GoldenladleGoldenladle Super Moderator Posts: 3,873 Senior Member
    A world war?

    Moved to Montana, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,991 Senior Member
    Maybe Obama will have to give his "undeserved" nobel peace prize back.:D
  • jbillyjbilly Senior Member Posts: 5,181 Senior Member
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,991 Senior Member
    jbilly wrote: »
    Maybe he should quit talking out his A$$!l

    The teleprompter made him say it.
  • swizzswizz Senior Member Posts: 2,559 Senior Member
    A world war?
    In a sense, yes.
    "The World" spanks Syria.... not solely the USA holding the paddle.
    All of your Trout are belong to me.
  • swizzswizz Senior Member Posts: 2,559 Senior Member
    I get the impression he thinks that he's the Chief Of Police for "The World".
    All his cops around "The World" seem to be on strike.
    So he and his posse are gonna plan to fix things right on their own.
    (I read a lot of old westerns)
    All of your Trout are belong to me.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 4,586 Senior Member
    greenman wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see where Rubio, Cruz, Rand side on this.
    Cruz and Paul both are going "no" with Rubio unknown/undecided, per CNN. Rubio says the US should only go in if it's going after "a clear and attainable national security goal."
    Known Senate votes here:
    http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/syria-congress-vote-count/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    and for the House of Reps.
    http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/syria-congress-vote-count/house.html?hpt=hp_t1
  • Green Mt BoyGreen Mt Boy Senior Member Posts: 966 Senior Member
    The Senate Foreign Relations Committee just voted to authorize a strike, but only after Sen. McCain got the underlying language of the resolution amended to call for changing the direction of the civil war in Syria in favor of the rebels.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/04/mccain-opposes-syria-strike-resolution/
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 4,586 Senior Member
    Was that before or after Sen. McCain's iPhone poker game?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/03/john-mccain-poker_n_3862592.html
  • The man's like 80 years old. It's a freaking miracle: a) he can work an iphone and b) he can stay awake.
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 10,244 Senior Member
    swizz wrote: »
    I get the impression he thinks that he's the Chief Of Police for "The World".
    All his cops around "The World" seem to be on strike.
    So he and his posse are gonna plan to fix things right on their own.
    (I read a lot of old westerns)

    Its like Dubya, all over again.
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    I am not going to make a final decision on this proposed intervention until I see the inevitable movie and finally find out what's really going on. And a lot will depend on the involvement of Oliver Stone or Clint Eastwood.
  • GoldenladleGoldenladle Super Moderator Posts: 3,873 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Its like Dubya, all over again.

    Yup, just like W, except of course all the ignorant noises W made, other than that, Obamy is just like him.

    Moved to Montana, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

  • Scott ButnerScott Butner Senior Member Posts: 3,918 Senior Member
    swizz wrote: »
    I get the impression he thinks that he's the Chief Of Police for "The World".


    well, like it or not, and for better or worse -- if there IS to be a "Chief of Police" for the world -- it rests with us. Ain't nobody else who wants the role.

    As to whether or not that means we should do some punitive action......haven't made my mind up about that yet. There are decent arguments on each side.
  • swizzswizz Senior Member Posts: 2,559 Senior Member
    ....if there IS to be a "Chief of Police" for the world -- it rests with us.
    very much disagree.
    That responsibility should rest on a coalition like UN or NATO
    All of your Trout are belong to me.
  • jbillyjbilly Senior Member Posts: 5,181 Senior Member
    swizz wrote: »
    very much disagree.
    That responsibility should rest on a coalition like UN or NATO

    Which without our backing neither could find their **** with both hands. Militarily speaking if we go into Syria we sure as heck don't need eithers support (I am assuming we are going to do air and cruise missile strikes not put troops on the ground).

    In terms of being the Worlds police neither of those organizations could stand on their own w/o the US. The converse is not true.

    Would it be "better" in a we want everyone to not hate the US stance to have their backing, sure I can't disagree with that.

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