The only way you are going to get that is to outlaw corporate contributions. Which is unconstitutional.
'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
Plus tell me how some guy who lives in some small town has even the slightest clue about any of the problems in urban America.
'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
I want to vote for someone who's support is 100% grass roots, who understands business and the environment, doesn't wizz all over the poor but understands the rich, hunts, fishes, and doesn't live in a big city.
...and that is connected to neither of our current political parties in any way...
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If you wanna vote for some city slicker who doesn't know a trout from a carp, much less why the trout is a sign of healthier water...have at it.
interesting. Some of the strongest advocates for clean watersheds that I know of are city folks, who don't have to worry about pissing off their friends who are dairy farmers, loggers, miners, etc.
The rest of the country is free to vote for whoever they'd like, that's just my pick.
If you wanna vote for some city slicker who doesn't know a trout from a carp, much less why the trout is a sign of healthier water...have at it.
All my fishing buddies come from the city.
Plus inner-city liberals are more likely to fight for clean water than some guy makes his living digging wells whether they know the difference between a trout and a goldfish.
Pro-environment is just a knee jerk reaction. Now wildlife management, that might be a different issue. They all grew up on Bambi.
'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
interesting. Some of the strongest advocates for clean watersheds that I know of are city folks, who don't have to worry about pissing off their friends who are dairy farmers, loggers, miners, etc.
Plus inner-city liberals are more likely to fight for clean water than some guy makes his living digging wells whether they know the difference between a trout and a goldfish.
Both of you are correct. Problem is those from the larger cities, that will fight for clean water, are usually a minority of the overall city population.
interesting. Some of the strongest advocates for clean watersheds that I know of are city folks, who don't have to worry about pissing off their friends who are dairy farmers, loggers, miners, etc.
Sure...some of them.
Perhaps we should put the entire conversation back up so it is in context rather than zeroing in on one tiny part. Context is important:
To be honest I never point at the politicians for taking the money. My position has always been the same since Nixon. Give but disclose. Heck make them dress like NASCAR drivers. If you want to vote for a man or woman that gets all their money from big oil, then do it.
I want to vote for someone who's support is 100% grass roots, who understands business and the environment, doesn't wizz all over the poor but understands the rich, hunts, fishes, and doesn't live in a big city.
...and that is connected to neither of our current political parties in any way...
But I'm not gonna hold my breath.
Here's where we began to leave out the entire context:
The rest of the country is free to vote for whoever they'd like, that's just my pick.
If you wanna vote for some city slicker who doesn't know a trout from a carp, much less why the trout is a sign of healthier water...have at it.
If you'se guys wanna pick at one part of the conversation out of context, fight amongst yourselves about it. That, on it's own, is not what am talking about.
"Just because I criticize your argument doesn't mean that I disagree with your position."
Both of you are correct. Problem is those from the larger cities, that will fight for clean water, are usually a minority of the overall city population.
Even in the smaller cities..and towns...
"Just because I criticize your argument doesn't mean that I disagree with your position."
Plus inner-city liberals are more likely to fight for clean water than some guy makes his living digging wells whether they know the difference between a trout and a goldfish.
Pro-environment is just a knee jerk reaction. Now wildlife management, that might be a different issue. They all grew up on Bambi.
Again....go back and put the whole thing together...here's what I said, nothing about "pro-environment":
I want to vote for someone who's support is 100% grass roots, who understands business and the environment, doesn't wizz all over the poor but understands the rich, hunts, fishes, and doesn't live in a big city.
...and that is connected to neither of our current political parties in any way...
But I'm not gonna hold my breath.
What I'm looking for is someone who gets both business and the environment...but again, only as part of a larger context.
...I will likely never be entirely happy with my choices...which is part of what the the whole politics thing is about.....you can't make everyone happy all the time.
...It's too bad we don't do what's good for most of the people most of the time though....
"Just because I criticize your argument doesn't mean that I disagree with your position."
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maybe because Citizens United were simply buying elections
And so you want to exclude the majority of the US population from public office?
I'd like point out that you were registered long before 2011. It was July of 2011 that the software used for this forum was changed.
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Moved to Montana, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.
'cuzz city folk just don't get it'
and iff'n its on mah TeeVee it's must be so
Mike
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ohhh my
You could be right. But I know I wasn't here during any of the Bush years.
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For my vote?
Absolutely.
The rest of the country is free to vote for whoever they'd like, that's just my pick.
If you wanna vote for some city slicker who doesn't know a trout from a carp, much less why the trout is a sign of healthier water...have at it.
interesting. Some of the strongest advocates for clean watersheds that I know of are city folks, who don't have to worry about pissing off their friends who are dairy farmers, loggers, miners, etc.
All my fishing buddies come from the city.
Plus inner-city liberals are more likely to fight for clean water than some guy makes his living digging wells whether they know the difference between a trout and a goldfish.
Pro-environment is just a knee jerk reaction. Now wildlife management, that might be a different issue. They all grew up on Bambi.
I pay 100% of my share - as determined by local, state and federal governments - of what your roads, bridges and hospitals cost.
Not everyone can say the same...
Both of you are correct. Problem is those from the larger cities, that will fight for clean water, are usually a minority of the overall city population.
Sure...some of them.
Perhaps we should put the entire conversation back up so it is in context rather than zeroing in on one tiny part. Context is important:
Here's where we began to leave out the entire context:
If you'se guys wanna pick at one part of the conversation out of context, fight amongst yourselves about it. That, on it's own, is not what am talking about.
Even in the smaller cities..and towns...
Again....go back and put the whole thing together...here's what I said, nothing about "pro-environment":
What I'm looking for is someone who gets both business and the environment...but again, only as part of a larger context.
...I will likely never be entirely happy with my choices...which is part of what the the whole politics thing is about.....you can't make everyone happy all the time.
...It's too bad we don't do what's good for most of the people most of the time though....