The Washington Redskins

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  • FlykuniFlykuni Senior Member Posts: 799 Senior Member
    Business office run by Schlomo, the ex-Mossad guy, don't mess w/Israelites.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 24,118 Senior Member
    Hextall wrote: »
    So I looked it up... one estimate to change the name would cost the Redskins somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million.

    Interesting article about trying to establish the cost to switch the name:
    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/42640844/

    So basically the cost of a Quarter Back for one season.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 24,118 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    I read the $10 million to $20 million and like I said, I bet it's low. If it's going to run an insurance company $35 million in rebranding (and the company's got decent name recognition, not great), then something like the Redskins should cost more.

    As for his economic prowess, I'm thinking shlubbubs like us should probably give him the benefit of the doubt. He may not know athletes but let's figure, given he's worth how many hundreds of millions, he understands debits and credits.

    Think about all the marketing and mailing that has to change for a financial institution as opposed to a football team. We are talking a few signs, team uniforms and maybe some stationary.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    Anyone chew? Is the name "Red Man" offensive?

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  • FlykuniFlykuni Senior Member Posts: 799 Senior Member
    Yes, like the Yellow Pages.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 24,118 Senior Member
    I think chewing is offensive. Did you see the Seinfeld episode with the wooden Indian?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    As opposed to the White pages?

    Handicap or physically challenged?

    Cabelas sells this pattern...It used to be called Pheasant Tail Cripple up until a few years ago. Now it called Pheasant Tail Challenged.

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Pheasant-Tail-Challenged-Per-3/741785.uts
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 24,118 Senior Member
    Noun 1. red man - (slang) offensive term for Native Americansred man - (slang) offensive term for Native Americans
    ****, ****
    derogation, disparagement, depreciation - a communication that belittles somebody or something
    jargon, lingo, patois, argot, vernacular, slang, cant - a characteristic language of a particular group (as among thieves); "they don't speak our lingo"
    American Indian, Indian, Red Indian - a member of the race of people living in America when Europeans arrived

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/red+man
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 24,118 Senior Member
    They should change the name to Washington Toothless Hillbillies.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    **** is first recorded in the late 17th century and was applied to the Algonquian peoples generally, but specifically to the Delaware (who lived in what is now southern New York State and New York City, New Jersey, and eastern Pennsylvania). **** referred not to the natural skin color of the Delaware, but to their use of vermilion face paint and body paint.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,971 Senior Member
    joekrz wrote: »
    As opposed to the White pages?

    Handicap or physically challenged?

    Cabelas sells this pattern...It used to be called Pheasant Tail Cripple up until a few years ago. Now it called Pheasant Tail Challenged.

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Pheasant-Tail-Challenged-Per-3/741785.uts

    That's a good example of PC Gone Wild.

    Earlier today I posted a link to a You Tube video of a banjo rendition of Cripple Creek. Must that traditional song now be called Challenged Creek?
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    That's a good example of PC Gone Wild.

    Earlier today I posted a link to a You Tube video of a banjo rendition of Cripple Creek. Must that traditional song now be called Challenged Creek?

    Assuming you fly fish I'm sure you are aware of the Quigley Cripple?

    Waiting for someone to go wild about that one also.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 24,118 Senior Member
    joekrz wrote: »
    **** is first recorded in the late 17th century and was applied to the Algonquian peoples generally, but specifically to the Delaware (who lived in what is now southern New York State and New York City, New Jersey, and eastern Pennsylvania). **** referred not to the natural skin color of the Delaware, but to their use of vermilion face paint and body paint.

    Yeah because that is what John Wayne was referring to in all those John Ford movies. Nice try.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    joekrz wrote: »
    Do you personally know anyone that uses the word "redskins" in discriminatory, racist or belittling manner?

    yes

    also have heard blanketheads, dog eaters, casino chiefs and prairie n*gger

    the latter being used over and over again years back over cocktails at meeting ... I let it go on and then after the umteenth time a buddy of mine sitting at the same table brought up the fact that my gr grandmother was American Indian ... then I sat there and watched this **** squirm for the rest of the evening after he tried for ten minutes to make excuses for comments

    go ahead keep excusing away 'Redskins' as some innocent inconsequential piece of history that means nothing
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,971 Senior Member
    joekrz wrote: »
    Assuming you fly fish I'm sure you are aware of the Quigley Cripple?

    Waiting for someone to go wild about that one also.

    Here we use sulfur and BWO "crippled emergers".
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    monkeydoes wrote: »
    yes

    also have heard blanketheads, dog eaters, casino chiefs and prairie n*gger

    the latter being used over and over again years back over cocktails at meeting ... I let it go on and then after the umteenth time a buddy of mine sitting at the same table brought up the fact that my gr grandmother was American Indian ... then I sat there and watched this **** squirm for the rest of the evening after he tried for ten minutes to make excuses for comments

    Don't go confusin' PC with being polite. 2 different things.
    go ahead keep excusing away 'Redskins' as some innocent inconsequential piece of history that means nothing

    I will and I do. So do 79% of other Americans...

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9235381/poll-majority-approve-washington-redskins-name

    Interested in a Bimbo sandwich? ;)

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  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Wow, you really go out of our way to justify using what everyone else KNOWS is an ugly racial epithet. Does that make you proud?
  • WetdogWetdog Senior Member Posts: 5,149 Senior Member
    oh wow.............
    I find the assault on free thought disturbing,
    I find the willingness to give it up frightening.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    So basically the cost of a Quarter Back for one season.

    Quarterback is one word.
    Of course, owners expect a positive return on their investment in their players. Good players keep the fannies in the seats, bring in extra for playoffs and maybe the Super Bowl, sell some jersies maybe.

    Anybody think the Kraft family gets no return on Tom Brady?

    What's the economic return on changing the name to the Washington Redtails? Zilch, most likely.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    joekrz wrote: »


    I will and I do. So do 79% of other Americans...

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    Too bad ESPN wasn't around in 1864 we coulda stopped that whole pesky emancipation proclamation
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    Jamespio wrote: »
    Wow, you really go out of our way to justify using what everyone else KNOWS is an ugly racial epithet. Does that make you proud?

    No James. Just pointing out the nonsense in all of this PC stuff we hear in the media today. I feel people are going way too overboard with it these days. It's like we need to walk on egg shells all of the time for fear of offending someone. This whole redskins deal is perfect example of that.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    So just because 78% say the name shouldn't be changed means its not a racial slur ... Got it

    Did you miss the part where that number is a ten point drop? Careful your cream cheese world is eroding.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    Nah...I saw the ten point drop. Goes right along with what I just said above about people going way too overboard with it these days. It's a reflection of the times.

    Don't you go getting all worried and stuff...All is good in Cheese world. PC Gone mad...
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Ya because respecting a persons race is so overboard pc
  • MikeAMikeA Senior Member Posts: 4,032 Senior Member
    How are any of the offensive words mentioned here any better than the offensive stuff I've read on here,, i.e people in the Tea party and southern US? And I've read some pretty offensive stuff here that goes unchallenged (depending on who its from) for the most part. Seems to me minorities are sacred to you guys but anyone who could potentially be a republican is no holds barred.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    ya and I get blasted for it all the time

    stating it goes 'unchallenged' is inaccurate

    I have been accused of having disdain and total contempt for my 'fellow man'

    funny how 'that' seems to be important but things like several centuries of genocide, theft or slavery is just a historical fact that happened and people need to get over it or be accused of playing the race card and being overly PC ... cause you know 'those people' are better off because of slavery (that was posted here and the poster 'claimed' they were genuine in that belief)

    the truth is ... white people are the only true victims in the world ... just ask 'em
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 10,115 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    i.e people in the Tea party and southern US?

    Who here would do such a thing? I've never seen that. ;)



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  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    again

    have someone help you look up the definition of 'mocking or mockery'

    funny how my use of phonetics is an 'issue' for some but racial epithets are something that people should just get over
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Of course, someone had to bring the "I'm a republican andtherefore a victim" response. What a bunch of ****.

    Conservative America seems downright determined to return to or remain in a time when it was okay to call people names based on their skin color. Okay, then, go for it. You're all right, it won't actually do me any harm. All it will do is make it that much easier for the rest of us to identify the jerkwads among us. Wear your bigotry proudly, you'll be doing me a favor.
  • MikeAMikeA Senior Member Posts: 4,032 Senior Member
    Jamespio wrote: »
    Of course, someone had to bring the "I'm a republican andtherefore a victim" response. What a bunch of ****.

    Conservative America seems downright determined to return to or remain in a time when it was okay to call people names based on their skin color. Okay, then, go for it. You're all right, it won't actually do me any harm. All it will do is make it that much easier for the rest of us to identify the jerkwads among us. Wear your bigotry proudly, you'll be doing me a favor.

    My work here is done. See you guys on page 24.

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