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Selling Access
NZ Indicator
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Giving or raising $500,000 or more puts donors on a national advisory board for Mr. Obama’s group and the privilege of attending quarterly meetings with the president, along with other meetings at the White House. Moreover, the new cash demands on Mr. Obama’s top donors and bundlers come as many of them are angling for appointments to administration jobs or ambassadorships.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/us/politics/obamas-backers-seek-deep-pockets-to-press-agenda.html?ref=politics&_r=2&
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/us/politics/obamas-backers-seek-deep-pockets-to-press-agenda.html?ref=politics&_r=2&
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A politician selling influence? Never happens...well...almost never...only in months that have the letter "e" in them...or any other vowel...
Where's the outrage like citizens united?
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At least int eh case of Obama, we know it is going on. As a social welfare organization, this thing could ahve organized in private, with very little public disclosure.
But wait according to Steven money does not matter.
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Change!
I'm not upset. I doubt Joe is either. It's just a lot of fun to remind you how the One ain't all that different from the W.
What are you upset about? Money doesn't matter in politics, right?
That there is some funny stuff...tax exempt..self-regulate... Big money donors get access to the president which increases their chances of getting appointed to positions within the administrations.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Of course. But you need $500,000+ to get there. Guess the evil 1% isn't so bad in O's book anymore. :rolleyes:
Then why didn't Joe bring it up when W was raising more money than anybody in the history of politics?
On this issue they are all the same.
My solution is that people should be able to give what they want, but we get to publish their names.
Who is? I once did business with a guy who stayed in the Lincoln bedroom (cost him $100,000 - things were cheaper back then). He was the same guy who sponsored Monica Lewinsky for her internship.
Pretty cool - one degree of separation from Slick Willie, Monica and a stained Blue Dress.
They never were. How many times had he said "We applaud your success" or "We want to encourage the entrepreneurial spirit?"
It is just the need of some to make Obama seem evil that allows you to ignore it.
Nobody buys into Hope and Change like a Lib. The most transparent and ethical admin in history, indeed.
As for your solution, I'd agree that's best. But best may run afoul of the Constitution. If I were to write something anti-Obama and put it on telephone polls everywhere, could Congress pass a law saying I have to sign my name?
Well you have to admit, after W, GHWB, Reagan and Nixon, that is not a very high bar.
Joe didn't say that, or infer it, and neither did I. Not at all.
Fire every last one the miserable bastiges that we catch doing it. Quickly, and with great enthusiasm...rather than justifying crappy behavior by saying "but they do it!"
Why are we not taking responsibility for our employees?
Actually the Supreme Court already ruled that disclosure would not be unconstitutional.
And replace them with whom? It is legal and as you like to say, they all do it.
As an aside, and comment of the relative efficiency and effectiveness of our politicians and their minions, this (found on another forum) is hilarious (follow the link): http://www.organizingforaction.net/
...someone should be fired for that beauty....
The one percent is never evil...when it's "our" one percent....
Their one percent has cloven hooves, horns, and bad attitude....
You know why the Clintons didn't name their dog "Spot", right?
So it's OK? And we'll never, ever point a finger at "the other side" ever again?
Joe wasn't registered here until July 2011. Makes it difficult to bring up when W isn't president.
To be honest I never point at the politicians for taking the money. My position has always been the same since Nixon. Give but disclose. Heck make them dress like NASCAR drivers. If you want to vote for a man or woman that gets all their money from big oil, then do it.
Convenient excuse.
And this is different from Americans for Prosperity in what way?
I want to vote for someone who's support is 100% grass roots, who understands business and the environment, doesn't wizz all over the poor but understands the rich, hunts, fishes, and doesn't live in a big city.
...and that is connected to neither of our current political parties in any way...
But I'm not gonna hold my breath.