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Egyptian president assumes dictatorial powers...

EdBEdB Senior MemberPosts: 2,967 Senior Member
...the same powers that Bush and Obama decreed. Why aren't the American people in the streets like the Egyptian people are?

http://fff.org/2012/11/27/outrage-over-morsi-but-not-over-our-dictator/

Outrage Over Morsi But Not Over Our Dictator
by Jacob G. HornbergerNovember 27, 2012
It is so amusing to see mainstream commentators condemning Egypt’s president, Mohamed Morsi, for assuming dictatorial powers. Their critiques are well-taken, as I observed in my blog post of yesterday, “Morsi’s Democratic Dictatorship.” But what’s amusing about the mainstreamers is how they can so quickly identify and condemn dictatorial conduct on the part of foreign rulers but maintain an absolutely obsequious blind spot when it comes to the dictatorial actions by their own ruler.

Recall President Bush’s assumption of dictatorial powers after the 9/11 attacks. Those powers included the authority to arrest Americans without warrants, cart them away to concentration camps or military dungeons as suspected terrorists, torture them, keep them incarcerated for life without trial, and even execute them, perhaps after some sort of kangaroo military tribunal.

Of course, in post-9/11 America the president himself wouldn’t personally be doing those things. That’s what the U.S. military and the CIA are for — to enforce the post-9/11 order in the United States.

Americans were able to gain a glimpse into how things now operated with the Pentagon’s treatment of American citizen Jose Padilla. The military took control of Padilla, tortured him, and claimed the authority to hold him for life without trial. What they did to Padilla, they could now do to all Americans.

In fact, the dictatorial powers assumed by Bush were precisely the same as the dictatorial powers that had been wielded by pro-U.S. Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak, whom the U.S. government had long supported and partnered with.

More revealing, it is precisely those powers — the powers to take citizens into custody as suspected terrorists, incarcerate and torture them, and even execute them — that went to the heart of the Mubarak dictatorship. It is those powers — the same types of powers wielded by Bush (and, later Obama), the military, and the CIA — that the Egyptian citizenry were demanding that Mubarak and his military and intelligence forces relinquish.

Consider, for example, Obama’s killing of the American teenage son of American Anwar al-Awlaki, whom Obama and his forces also assassinated. Forget the presumption of innocence, due process of law, and trial by jury. Presumably they took out the boy simply because he was the son of an accused terrorist whom they had killed and, therefore, a person who might later try to see revenge for the killing of his father.

But what’s important to note is that Obama, the Pentagon, and the CIA don’t have to answer to anyone for the boy’s killing or explain their reasons to anyone for why they did it. Why, they don’t even have to acknowledge that they took out the boy. Keep in mind that what they did to that teenager, they can now do to any American anywhere in the world.

How can powers be more dictatorial than that? Yet, the mainstream press, while expressing shock and outrage over Morsi’s assumption of dictatorial powers, just nonchalantly and subserviently accepts the assumption and exercise of dictatorial powers by the U.S. president, the Pentagon, and the CIA.
What’s the solution to the dictatorial system under which we now live? How about an amendment to the Constitution that reads as follows:

The federal government shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, and every person accused of a crime shall be accorded the rights of trial by jury, the presumption of innocence, and the right to confront witnesses, and no cruel and unusual punishments shall be inflicted on anyone, and this time we, the American people, really do mean it.

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  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 10,690 Senior Member
    Hi Ed,

    It's been a while since you posted. I hope all is well and that you had a Happy Thanksgiving.
    "...this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron..."

    George Will
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 10,690 Senior Member
    Waiting for those in public office which is supposedly a public trust; to uphold the US Constitution is like waiting for the second coming......a more perfect union of some extent in their multiple personality schizophrenia where most every personality is two-faced in response since theirs wasn't a first coming.


    You're slipping, Dave. Did you forget that this is the board where you strive to avoid sounding even a little bit lucid or cogent?
    "...this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron..."

    George Will
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,077 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    Hi Ed,

    It's been a while since you posted. I hope all is well and that you had a Happy Thanksgiving.



    "all is well" being a relative term?
    Fly Fishing in Maine - www.flyfishinginmaine.com
  • An Ed post followed by an SSD post. Excellent.
  • EdBEdB Senior Member Posts: 2,967 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    Hi Ed,

    It's been a while since you posted. I hope all is well and that you had a Happy Thanksgiving.

    Thanks George, all is well and with you also I hope.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 10,690 Senior Member
    If the only purpose of upholding the Constitution is to be made to look so lilly brillant white christ, have at it; or not.

    That's a little better, but still far from your norm.
    "...this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron..."

    George Will
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 25,800 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    You're slipping, Dave. Did you forget that this is the board where you strive to avoid sounding even a little bit lucid or cogent?

    That was lucid?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 10,690 Senior Member
    That was lucid?

    More or less.
    "...this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron..."

    George Will
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 25,800 Senior Member
    Are you putting something other than sweet n low in your coffee? ;)
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 4,129 Senior Member
    Morsi, Obama, Lodge moderators....where will it end? Are we doomed to slavery?
  • GoldenladleGoldenladle Super Moderator Posts: 3,928 Senior Member
    creekguy wrote: »
    Morsi, Obama, Lodge moderators....where will it end? Are we doomed to slavery?

    Wait... what?

    Moved to Montana, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 10,690 Senior Member
    EdB wrote: »
    Thanks George, all is well and with you also I hope.

    I'm fine Ed, thanks.
    "...this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron..."

    George Will
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 10,690 Senior Member
    creekguy wrote: »
    Morsi, Obama, Lodge moderators....where will it end? Are we doomed to slavery?

    Supermoderator
    is but a stepping stone. My career goal is to become Field Marshall Of The Universe.
    "...this low-rent Lear raging on his Twitter-heath has proven that the phrase malignant buffoon is not an oxymoron..."

    George Will
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Don't worry Dave, it all ends in 18 days..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • GoldenladleGoldenladle Super Moderator Posts: 3,928 Senior Member
    Obama says that's hooey...

    Moved to Montana, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

  • helen-keller.jpg

    This message is hidden because saltydancindave is on your ignore list.
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 4,129 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »

    Supermoderator
    is but a stepping stone. My career goal is to become Field Marshall Of The Universe.

    Higgs Boson has that wrapped up. Sorry.

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