Romney's Tour Abroad

WetdogWetdog Senior MemberPosts: 5,149 Senior Member
Anyone proud? He may be as stupid when it comes to speaking as GWB.

I also loved his praising of Israel's health care system for keeping cost down. (Obamacare on steroids).

carry on.....
I find the assault on free thought disturbing,
I find the willingness to give it up frightening.
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  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    The "Romney Offensive". Travel abroad and offend everyone.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • FishTXFishTX Super Moderator Posts: 7,884 Senior Member
    At least he didn't criticize their security. ;)
    "We have to find someone who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner."

    Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,553 Senior Member
    I eagerly await seeing how he screws-up the visit to Poland.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • FishTXFishTX Super Moderator Posts: 7,884 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    I eagerly await seeing how he screws-up the visit to Poland.

    He'll probably diffuse things by starting off with a joke.

    Romney: Ya ever hear the one about the Polack that walks into the car dealership...... :rolleyes:
    "We have to find someone who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner."

    Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Wetdog wrote: »
    Anyone proud? He may be as stupid when it comes to speaking as GWB.

    Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Something both Mitt and President Bush have gotten right.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,553 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    I eagerly await seeing how he screws-up the visit to Poland.

    Here's how:

    As he walked back to his vehicle, he ignored reporters’ shouted questions. When a journalist noted that Romney has taken almost no questions from his traveling press corps throughout the foreign trip, Romney spokesman Rick Gorka retorted, “Kiss my ****.”

    “This is a holy site for the Polish people,” Gorka said. “Show some respect.”

    Moments later, Gorka told another reporter to “shove it.” Gorka later called the reporters to apologize.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-mitt-romney-wraps-up-overseas-trip-his-aide-berates-reporters/2012/07/31/gJQAjefcMX_story.html?hpid=z2
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Trying to work on that wimp factor thing, I'm sure.
  • Scott ButnerScott Butner Senior Member Posts: 3,918 Senior Member
    I think a lot of Romney's recent "gaffes" are quite intentional and designed to appeal to his base -- who think that it should be national policy to b!tch slap the Palestinians from time to time, that the media are scum deserving the scorn of candidates, and that the Brits are a bunch of wankers with a national superiority complex. Coming off as being rude to "those people" helps legitimize Romney as "one of us" to that core group of voters that still isn't sure he really IS a modern Republican.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,553 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Trying to work on that wimp factor thing, I'm sure.

    The phrase "Not ready for prime time" comes to mind.

    Tom Ridge was a good PA governor and well-liked across party lines. When he became the first Sect. of Homeland Security he was in over his waders. I think Romney may be in that same category.

    There is a huge difference between state and national-level politics.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,009 Senior Member
    I don't know Scott, he was rude to the Brits right after telling everyone the reason why Obama was so bad at foreign policy, Hillary has more achievements than Condeleeza could only imagine, is because he didn't know how to kiss British booty.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    George K wrote: »
    There is a huge difference between state and national-level politics.

    In 2008, we elected a man with experience in neither.

    To somehow believe that a man, worth, I don't know, a quarter of a billion dollars is somehow dumb, is, to say the least, kind of mind-boggling.

    Three nights in October will decide this race, if the economy doesn't pick up. If the economy still sux, and Romney looks like a credible alternative to President Obama, Romney will win.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Hillary has more achievements than Condeleeza could only imagine, is because he didn't know how to kiss British booty.

    Before being Sec. of State, Hill was a Senator for a term and a third. Condi was National Security Advisor for four years. Both, obviously, served as Secretaries of State. Hill had a very good law career. Condi had, and has again, a very distinguished academic career.

    I guess I'm missing how Hillary has so outclassed Condi.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,009 Senior Member
    Because as a Secretary of State Condeleeza accomplished exactly nothing.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    No doubt, Hillary will go down as having changed the world.
  • Brian D.Brian D. Senior Member Posts: 4,011 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Something both Mitt and President Bush have gotten right.

    Steven, if Obama had implied that Israel does well economically because the Jewish "culture" is good with money, we would be scraping your panties off the ceiling.

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  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Had Romney implied that Israel does well economically because Jews are good with money, you might have a point.

    Suggesting that the difference between Palestinian GDP per capita and Israeli GDP per capita is due to culture isn't exactly same-same.
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Had Romney implied that Israel does well economically because Jews are good with money, you might have a point.

    Suggesting that the difference between Palestinian GDP per capita and Israeli GDP per capita is due to culture isn't exactly same-same.

    Yeah, I think it is the same thing. Just like if he had said blacks are lower on the economic ladder because white's have a better culture.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    1) The Israeli economy isn't Switzerland and banking. They actually make things there. Not too mention there's a lot of agriculture.
    2) Maybe he thinks that Jews are just OK with money, but Palestinians really suck. Think of France versus Greece. Would you really say the French are good with money?
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,009 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Had Romney implied that Israel does well economically because Jews are good with money, you might have a point.

    Suggesting that the difference between Palestinian GDP per capita and Israeli GDP per capita is due to culture isn't exactly same-same.

    If The President had said it by the time Fox News got through with it, it would be same-same.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,009 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    1) The Israeli economy isn't Switzerland and banking. They actually make things there. Not too mention there's a lot of agriculture.
    2) Maybe he thinks that Jews are just OK with money, but Palestinians really suck. Think of France versus Greece. Would you really say the French are good with money?

    Well first of all when you keep bulldozing their neighborhoods and bazaars it is tough on an economy. Also didn't most of the good land and water end up in Israel?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    If The President had said it by the time Fox News got through with it, it would be same-same.

    This and $4.00 will get me a grande latte.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,009 Senior Member
    So you're saying you would not jump on it like Republican congressman on a boy toy?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • Brian D.Brian D. Senior Member Posts: 4,011 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Had Romney implied that Israel does well economically because Jews are good with money, you might have a point.

    Suggesting that the difference between Palestinian GDP per capita and Israeli GDP per capita is due to culture isn't exactly same-same.

    Sigh. And if Obama said it, we would be having this exact conversation in reverse.


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  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Well first of all when you keep bulldozing their neighborhoods and bazaars it is tough on an economy. Also didn't most of the good land and water end up in Israel?

    I have no idea on the latter. As for the former, Israeli restrictions have undoubtedly hurt. Of course, one could argue that the economies of the Arab countries without oil suck rocks as well, so maybe it is cultural (e.g. Middle Eastern vs. Western European, democratic v. monarchal/dictatorial), but ultimately, who cares? It was a soundbite that played to the crowd.

    Ultimately, Romney's tour was a success as soon as a picture of him in a kipah in front of the Kotel was on the front page of the New York Times. Lauding JPII in Poland probably didn't hurt with Catholics, either.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Brian D. wrote: »
    Sigh. And if Obama said it, we would be having this exact conversation in reverse.


    Sent from my SPH-M580 using Tapatalk 2

    Sigh. What would Obama say? You didn't build that?
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    So you're saying you would not jump on it like Republican congressman on a boy toy?

    Honestly. I don't know what would be more shocking. President Obama saying it or Jimmy Carter saying it.

    To think I'd say that Obama is denigrating Jews is complete and utter nonsense. I'd say he's trying to sew up Florida, just like Romney is.
  • WetdogWetdog Senior Member Posts: 5,149 Senior Member
    You guys do know that Israel has any number of damned socialist institutions. #1 is mandatory health insurance. Support of the system comes directly out of your paycheck. Also, health insurance companies there are non profit. I get a kick out of the fact that Romney was praising something that he had no understanding of--but what's new eh? He said something like we need to do something like they are doing. I will agree with him...non profit insurance providers would keep the costs down.

    I just got back from the doc. Appears I have a rotator cuff tear, seven weeks of PT. Each of my last Dr. visits (3) cost $212 to walk in the door. Just a year or two ago it was $120.

    Last note. I see Rudy Giuliani has been screaming about how Obama hates Israel and has been selling them out. However, I saw a clip last night of some Israeli minister saying that Obama has been the best friend they have had in years and years. Do Republicans ever stop lying?
    I find the assault on free thought disturbing,
    I find the willingness to give it up frightening.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Wetdog wrote: »
    You guys do know that Israel has any number of damned socialist institutions.?

    I thought that whole David Ben Gurion/Labor party thing was suspicious.
    And the kibbutzim. That was an indicator.

    I hope your RC gets better quick.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,553 Senior Member
    Steven,

    Me - There is a huge difference between state and national-level politics.

    You - In 2008, we elected a man with experience in neither.

    Thank you, kind sir, for your munificent act of illumination. Without your help I most likely would have gone to my grave believing in error that 11 years in the Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate would count as experience in state and national-level politics.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    You think Obama spent any time in Springfield or in Washington in the Senate while he was running for President?


    LOL.
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