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My senator, Olympia Snowe, is not seeking re-election

fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior MemberPosts: 240 Senior Member
one of the best of Maine, whose shoes have stood in the foot prints of some of our finest, and the Republican Party is dancing in the streets because Olympia never walked the party line and are happy to see her leave, sad state of affairs indeed.

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  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,146 Senior Member
    except they are going to lose that seat.....
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  • JulietJuliet Posts: 49,774 Senior Member
    That would be good.
  • fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior Member Posts: 240 Senior Member
    No doubt in my mind tim and no matter who gets in it will never be the same.
    tim_s wrote: »
    except they are going to lose that seat.....
  • fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior Member Posts: 240 Senior Member
    You obviously are not well versed in Senator Snowe's reputation, her reason for leaving is that neither party is willing to talk w/o toeing the party line which is not something she ever did.
    greenman wrote: »
    That would be good.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 49,774 Senior Member
    I agree with her reasons for leaving but since the rise of the Tea Party and the empty suit you have for a Governor I'd rather see a Democrat in the seat than a rabid ignorant Tea Party Senator.

    In the current light of the GOP she's considered a RINO. I know she was a moderate who ran afoul of the GOP good ol boy club more than once.


    Any chance her seat could be taken by and independent like Bernie Sanders?
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 26,153 Senior Member
    fishnbanjo wrote: »
    You obviously are not well versed in Senator Snowe's reputation, her reason for leaving is that neither party is willing to talk w/o toeing the party line which is not something she ever did.

    Yeah but she has become a bit of a nutter as of late also.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • magallowaymagalloway Senior Member Posts: 1,036 Senior Member
    Could you please explain how Senator Snowe has become "...a bit of a nutter" for me? Maine has a long reputation of electing extremely moderate Republican senators who tend to vote for the good of the country, not for the good of the Republican Party; they have often been excoriated for their unwillingness to follow the party line, and in general, their electorate has liked that just fine. FWIW, The Maine senatorial election is one of the extremely rare few in which I will vote for a well-qualified Republican candidate simply because it keeps those "nutters" you were talking about home, mending lobstah traps.

    Jim
  • fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior Member Posts: 240 Senior Member
    Hell I wish the Independent Candidate Cutler had been elected to the governor's seat and he may just do that next go around. I just don't want an empty suit to take her seat.........
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 26,153 Senior Member
    magalloway wrote: »
    Could you please explain how Senator Snowe has become "...a bit of a nutter" for me? Maine has a long reputation of electing extremely moderate Republican senators who tend to vote for the good of the country, not for the good of the Republican Party; they have often been excoriated for their unwillingness to follow the party line, and in general, their electorate has liked that just fine. FWIW, The Maine senatorial election is one of the extremely rare few in which I will vote for a well-qualified Republican candidate simply because it keeps those "nutters" you were talking about home, mending lobstah traps.

    Jim

    Come on some of her statements regarding Obama and socialism during the whole debt ceiling debate did not seem a bit off kilter to you?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • Scott ButnerScott Butner Senior Member Posts: 3,918 Senior Member
    this is a sad day for reason in American politics.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 26,153 Senior Member
    I will say though that for the most part she was a voice of reason, one that is sorely lacking these days.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • magallowaymagalloway Senior Member Posts: 1,036 Senior Member
    fishnbanjo wrote: »
    Hell I wish the Independent Candidate Cutler had been elected to the governor's seat and he may just do that next go around. I just don't want an empty suit to take her seat.........

    Much agreed, Sante. I love how teh Gubnor likes to speak about his "Mandate" when he barely scraped through a tie with Cutler with under forty per cent of the vote.


    Jim
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 49,774 Senior Member
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,146 Senior Member
    a RINO in today's world, but probably closer to the Republicans of old

    i wouldn't mind seeing peter mills run for her seat; replace one moderate republican with a slightly more conservative republican who has more common sense, and isn't a part of the DC machine (let's not forget olympia entered the senate with a net worth under 100k and is now a multimillionaire)


    gonna be interesting.....pingree, baldacci, ambroise, mills, that whackjob ian dodge, michaud, possible saviello (another middle of the roader i wouldn't mind seeing)

    hopefully cutler holds off - voted for him for governor last time, and would gladly do so again - if he has patience, he is the next governor of maine.....
    Fly Fishing in Maine - www.flyfishinginmaine.com
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 49,774 Senior Member
    tim_s wrote: »
    a RINO in today's world, but probably closer to the Republicans of old...

    thank you

    but then again remember in recent years it has been neccessary by the Newba Raight to paint the long venerated Teddy Roosevelt as a 'communist'


    Last Sunday on 'This Week' George Will briefly but eloquently described how the present day party is self destructing

    when the party (or IF) regains it's sanity then maybe the sane (is RINOs) along with a chunk of the moderate vote will return to the party

    it's probably why in '08 you saw SUVs with DU / PF stickers (you know gun owners) and Obama stickers on them, and then there is this one I saw on Sunday last (BTW Sherb the rear window sticker was a USMC sticker) when I pulled up next to the truck at the next light it was being driven by a St Paul FD EMS Paramedic ... you know one of those commie type people sucking at the public teat

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  • fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior Member Posts: 240 Senior Member
    Baldacci! :p Where's the run for the hills emoticon when you need one?
    tim_s wrote: »
    a RINO in today's world, but probably closer to the Republicans of old

    i wouldn't mind seeing peter mills run for her seat; replace one moderate republican with a slightly more conservative republican who has more common sense, and isn't a part of the DC machine (let's not forget olympia entered the senate with a net worth under 100k and is now a multimillionaire)


    gonna be interesting.....pingree, baldacci, ambroise, mills, that whackjob ian dodge, michaud, possible saviello (another middle of the roader i wouldn't mind seeing)

    hopefully cutler holds off - voted for him for governor last time, and would gladly do so again - if he has patience, he is the next governor of maine.....
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,146 Senior Member
    fishnbanjo wrote: »
    Baldacci! :p Where's the run for the hills emoticon when you need one?



    i'd take baldacci over pingree or d'ambroise or dodge!

    right now, i'd be ok with michaud....or mills....or abbott, if he decided to run.....probably saviello, too.....all more or less centrist.....mills is the farthest right, but he's also the most pragmatic and anti-party line; i LIKE peter mills even though i disagree on some issues.....
    Fly Fishing in Maine - www.flyfishinginmaine.com
  • fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior Member Posts: 240 Senior Member
    I understand, I just wish Angus King was still around though.................
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,146 Senior Member
    3 more years until cutler.....might be worth the wait
    Fly Fishing in Maine - www.flyfishinginmaine.com
  • flytrapflytrap Banned Posts: 1,659 Senior Member
    Moderate Republicans. Aren't they extinct? They must at least be a threatened species. Kind of like reasonable Democrats.
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,146 Senior Member
    flytrap wrote: »
    Moderate Republicans. Aren't they extinct? They must at least be a threatened species. Kind of like reasonable Democrats.


    perfect time for a rebirth of the Bull Moose Party
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  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 26,153 Senior Member
    You do know that she felt that if they narrowed the language she would have supported the Blunt amendment? She actually believes an employer has a right to tell an employee what medical treatments they should be allowed to receive. She also believed in DADT.

    She isn't the moderate she once was.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 5,943 Senior Member
    She isn't the moderate she once was.
    But she's a sight more moderate than the rest of the crew they have now...
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 2,146 Senior Member
    one could argue that a narrowing of the language IS the centrist/moderate stance, between the two all or nothing extremes
    Fly Fishing in Maine - www.flyfishinginmaine.com
  • fishnbanjofishnbanjo Senior Member Posts: 240 Senior Member
    Woot! Angus King is running, he's got my vote......
  • dryfliedryflie Senior Member Posts: 1,442 Senior Member
    fishnbanjo wrote: »
    Woot! Angus King is running, he's got my vote......

    I got word that LePage is looking at the seat. He's done such a great job for Maine.
    “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” - John Kenneth Galbraith
  • flytrapflytrap Banned Posts: 1,659 Senior Member
    fishnbanjo wrote: »
    Woot! Angus King is running, he's got my vote......
    Just read a quick bio on him. Does he have any clones for us in the other states?

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