Can someone explain this to me?

Why is the house wasting time with the **** Bill. The Senate, both Dems and Reps have said it won't have the votes to pass. Obama has said he will veto it.

Is this about **** retaining power over the House?
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  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    It's about arrogance. What else could it be?
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    ....

    'the number one priority of the new Republican Congress will be the removal of Obama from office'
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Is this so the House can say they passed a bill and the Senate was the holdup. I know the house has historically looked at the Senate as the elitist of Congress and the Senate historically looks at the House a rabble but come on when Republican Senators say it's DOA hold a meeting a compromise.
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    It's the same song and dance when gopers say the Pres hasn't put anything in writing. Like it's his job to do their job. They're trying to shift blame, yes.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    I believe he did float a plan out there. Giving compromise to the third rail of Democratic politics, but asking in return some compromise on taxes and loopholes from the GOP. **** then got his chain jerked by the TP and was told to leave the negotiations.
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    Oh yeah, he put issues forward, but the gopers are crying bloody murder that it wasn't in writing. What is there to put in writing if there is not an agreement? Solve the issue first, then you put it in writing seems to me to be the logical sequence of writing a bill.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    greenman wrote: »
    Why is the house wasting time with the **** Bill. The Senate, both Dems and Reps have said it won't have the votes to pass. Obama has said he will veto it.

    Is this about **** retaining power over the House?

    Doesn't the House have to come up with a Bill? Isn't that how it works?
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    I'm pretty sure it doesn't work exactly in the manner explained during Saturday morning cartoons.

    Do you think the Reid Bill could pass the House?
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Steven wrote: »
    Doesn't the House have to come up with a Bill? Isn't that how it works?

    Bills can go both ways but usually come from the House go to the Senate for changes compromises ect then on to the Prez. But if the Senate has indicated in bipartisan speak that it won't pass the Senate then why bother?
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Steven wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it doesn't work exactly in the manner explained during Saturday morning cartoons.

    Do you think the Reid Bill could pass the House?

    Sorry but it does. Bachmann used this in her Constetution class to keep the Tea Party folks focused. The only part that's inaccurate is the part where the regular folks call their Rep and they listen to them.
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »

    Do you think the Reid Bill could pass the House?

    No. It's about the same as ****'s except it doesn't have a short term clause. It closes the issue till after the 2012 election.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    Steven wrote: »
    Doesn't the House have to come up with a Bill? Isn't that how it works?

    this is the case with bills pertaining to the raising of revenue

    so the question would be ... is raising the debt limit the same as raising revenue

    honestly I dunno

    but only specific legislation must originate within the House ... the Senate can send appropiations bills to the House upon which the House may act in several ways but to authorize raising revenue I believe that bill is then adopted as a House file ... also the Senate may go around this rule with certain exceptions one of which is substituting 'revenue' lamguage
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    yatahey wrote: »
    No. It's about the same as ****'s except it doesn't have a short term clause. It closes the issue till after the 2012 election.

    And both are not as good as the plan Obama discussed but rejected because of the "revenue enhancements". That plan was one Reagan would have jumped on so would Bush senior.

    These promise to both set up commissions to work on the problem. We already had that. Allan Simpson was on last night discussing the matter. These guys become more human after they leave office.
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    greenman wrote: »
    These guys become more human after they leave office.

    Sure, if they don't take a job with their corporate benefactors.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    actually with the exception of the polar ends of both parties Most already are human

    this is something that is lost on the Beckerheads and Talk Radio crowd

    as I have said before, while I disagree with a number of his positions I actually like Tim Pawlenty as a person and enjoyed my visits with him and his staff ... if anyone should have been governor tho it was his wife who is more pleasant, more level headed and much brighter and smarter than he is

    same would apply to Senator Paul Wellstone ... a tad bit too socialist for my tastes ... but ... he never hid the convictions of his belief and had quite a good sense of humor and was all around a very pleasant person
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    You know who else was a pleasant person?
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    He liked dogs.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    ...

    didn't we agree not to talk about each other's moms?
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    greenman wrote: »
    He liked dogs.

    and little children

    and

    trains
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    ............
    monkeydoes wrote: »
    and little children

    and

    trains

    and Meth
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    I'll bet you money that tow-headed brat from Shane was high on meth when he met his reward.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    no

    AH was more along the oxycontin class of father's lil helpers


    you know who else likes opioids?
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    You're an arm of the law get him dug up. Then you can slap him.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    sherb wrote: »
    I'll bet you money that tow-headed brat from Shane was high on meth when he met his reward.

    he was friends with Paul McCartney

    ergo I blame Yoko Ono
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    monkeydoes wrote: »
    no

    AH was more along the oxycontin class of father's lil helpers


    you know who else likes opioids?

    Warning!

    If Monkey gets on Jeopardy and there's a "Dead Drug Addicted Western Stars Who Need Slapping" topic, look out.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    monkeydoes wrote: »
    he was friends with Paul McCartney

    ergo I blame Yoko Ono

    Dat ****!


    I spit on my screen.
  • JulietJuliet Posts: 0
    greenman wrote: »
    Warning!

    If Monkey gets on Jeopardy and there's a "Dead Drug Addicted Western Stars Who Need Slapping" topic, look out.

    ...


    who is Audie Murphy?
  • yataheyyatahey Senior Member Posts: 5,605 Senior Member
    monkeydoes wrote: »
    ...


    who is Audie Murphy?

    He was the Congressman who wrote Murphy's Law silly.
    "When the goin gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson

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