Tyson vs Ali

BuffcoBuffco Senior MemberPosts: 10,271 Senior Member

Mike Tyson, in his prime, totally destroys Ali in his prime.

Change my mind.

Answers

  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,886 Senior Member

    Who was the better ballplayer, Babe Ruth or Ted Williams? It's the same sort of question for which there is no answer, only opinions. :)

    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 2,717 Senior Member

    Buff...Buff...Buff

    Your defending a Boxer who bit the ear off of Hollyfield---hardly textbook

    Ali had the distance

    "He'll knock ya inta tamarrah Rock"---ok my fav of the group

  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 10,271 Senior Member

    Once Tyson got in close, it would be over.


    Remember I'm talking prime Tyson. Pre ear snacking.

  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 2,717 Senior Member

    I watched that fight

    Tyson was favorite---when you callin washed up??

    Ali had reach over Tyson---just sayin

  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 3,821 Senior Member

    I don’t know.

    I watch a lot Of Tyson clips. His speed, power and skill are something to behold. And of course you can’t discount the intimidation factor. If he got inside on Ali...maybe.

  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 3,821 Senior Member

    The thing is though, I think you can discount Tyson intimidating Ali.

    i feel like Ali would have been living rent-free in Tyson’s head for months leading up to a fight. That matters.

  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 9,886 Senior Member

    As I said, Ruth or Wiliams? Raw power or grace and speed? Both had incredible hand-eye co:ordination and quick reflexes.

    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • bmmikebmmike Posts: 519 Senior Member

    Bruce Lee would have danced around both, defeating them with ease and screaming like a monkey in his usual manner.

  • jbillyjbilly Senior Member Posts: 5,204 Senior Member

    I’ve got to disagree with Sheb. Ali couldn’t get into Tyson’s head, there’s nothing there to get into. Tyson’s a meat head.

  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 10,271 Senior Member

    Bruce Lee was overrated.


    As for Ruth vs Williams, Williams all day.

  • Shawn C.Shawn C. Senior Member Posts: 6,812 Senior Member

    Chuck Mother Truckin’ Norris.

    BOOM!

    Buffy is correct about Teddy Ballgame.

  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,757 Senior Member

    @sherb said:
    The thing is though, I think you can discount Tyson intimidating Ali.
    i feel like Ali would have been living rent-free in Tyson’s head for months leading up to a fight. That matters.

    I don't Tyson could have gotten inside.

    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 2,717 Senior Member

    Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style

    "Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"

  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,757 Senior Member

    @Bushart said:
    Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style

    "Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"

    I don't think that is a fair assessment. What he was really doing was waiting for his opponent to make a mistake he could exploit with a truly devastating and accurate punch.

    Ali didn't often make mistakes.

    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • Shawn C.Shawn C. Senior Member Posts: 6,812 Senior Member

    I kinda miss boxing. UFC sucks. It’s the NASCAR of fighting sports. Those big fights when I was young were must see TV.

  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 2,957 Senior Member

    @Shawn C. said:
    I kinda miss boxing. UFC sucks. It’s the NASCAR of fighting sports. Those big fights when I was young were must see TV.

    Until this guy named Tyson showed up and the main event was less than a minute.

    Just look at the flowers Lizzie just look at the flowers.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 3,362 Senior Member
    edited April 15 #18

    @Buffco said:
    Mike Tyson, in his prime, totally destroys Ali in his prime.

    Change my mind.

    Two points:

    1) We never really got to see Ali in his prime. He was not allowed to fight from age 25 to 29 as his conscientious objector case went through the court system

    2) Ali fought and beat Frazier, Foreman and Norton - guys who could hit every bit as hard as Tyson.

    An in-prime Ali would have jabbed Tyson's freaking head off. He was so fast...you could see it in Ali's pre-1971 fights.

  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 3,821 Senior Member

    >Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style

    "Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"

    >

    don't agree. Speed, power, technique, he has it all. take a look at these clips. He's shorter than all of his opponents. He knows it, and knows what do do.

    Does that mean he could have taking Ali? Who knows. Maybe.


  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 3,821 Senior Member

    also, you have to see this. Esp bmmike.


  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 10,271 Senior Member

    The NES game was called "Mike Tyson's Punchout", not Ali.

  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 3,362 Senior Member

    @Buffco said:
    The NES game was called "Mike Tyson's Punchout", not Ali.

    https://heavy.com/sports/2016/06/muhammad-ali-1960-olympics-gold-medal-dead-cassius-clay-rip/

    This is a fun watch. At the age of 18, he was fighting real professionals at the Olympics as a light heavy weight. He kind of coasts along the championship fight until the middle of the third round when he turns it up.

    Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee.

  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 10,271 Senior Member

    Floats like a butterfly for several rounds. Picks little wafting blows. Finally wears out his opponent.

    Tyson steps in, stomps like a bull. Match over in seconds.

  • jbillyjbilly Senior Member Posts: 5,204 Senior Member

    And if all else failed Ali would have been one ear short

  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 3,362 Senior Member

    @Buffco said:
    Floats like a butterfly for several rounds. Picks little wafting blows. Finally wears out his opponent.

    Tyson steps in, stomps like a bull. Match over in seconds.

    Tyson steps in, gets hit with two jabs and a right cross faster than he could blink.

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