I watch a lot Of Tyson clips. His speed, power and skill are something to behold. And of course you can’t discount the intimidation factor. If he got inside on Ali...maybe.
@sherb said:
The thing is though, I think you can discount Tyson intimidating Ali.
i feel like Ali would have been living rent-free in Tyson’s head for months leading up to a fight. That matters.
I don't Tyson could have gotten inside.
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@Bushart said:
Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style
"Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"
I don't think that is a fair assessment. What he was really doing was waiting for his opponent to make a mistake he could exploit with a truly devastating and accurate punch.
Ali didn't often make mistakes.
'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
@Buffco said:
Mike Tyson, in his prime, totally destroys Ali in his prime.
Change my mind.
Two points:
1) We never really got to see Ali in his prime. He was not allowed to fight from age 25 to 29 as his conscientious objector case went through the court system
2) Ali fought and beat Frazier, Foreman and Norton - guys who could hit every bit as hard as Tyson.
An in-prime Ali would have jabbed Tyson's freaking head off. He was so fast...you could see it in Ali's pre-1971 fights.
>Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style
"Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"
>
don't agree. Speed, power, technique, he has it all. take a look at these clips. He's shorter than all of his opponents. He knows it, and knows what do do.
Does that mean he could have taking Ali? Who knows. Maybe.
This is a fun watch. At the age of 18, he was fighting real professionals at the Olympics as a light heavy weight. He kind of coasts along the championship fight until the middle of the third round when he turns it up.
Answers
Who was the better ballplayer, Babe Ruth or Ted Williams? It's the same sort of question for which there is no answer, only opinions.
Buff...Buff...Buff
Your defending a Boxer who bit the ear off of Hollyfield---hardly textbook
Ali had the distance
"He'll knock ya inta tamarrah Rock"---ok my fav of the group
Once Tyson got in close, it would be over.
Remember I'm talking prime Tyson. Pre ear snacking.
I watched that fight
Tyson was favorite---when you callin washed up??
Ali had reach over Tyson---just sayin
I don’t know.
I watch a lot Of Tyson clips. His speed, power and skill are something to behold. And of course you can’t discount the intimidation factor. If he got inside on Ali...maybe.
The thing is though, I think you can discount Tyson intimidating Ali.
i feel like Ali would have been living rent-free in Tyson’s head for months leading up to a fight. That matters.
As I said, Ruth or Wiliams? Raw power or grace and speed? Both had incredible hand-eye co:ordination and quick reflexes.
Bruce Lee would have danced around both, defeating them with ease and screaming like a monkey in his usual manner.
I’ve got to disagree with Sheb. Ali couldn’t get into Tyson’s head, there’s nothing there to get into. Tyson’s a meat head.
Bruce Lee was overrated.
As for Ruth vs Williams, Williams all day.
Chuck Mother Truckin’ Norris.
BOOM!
Buffy is correct about Teddy Ballgame.
I don't Tyson could have gotten inside.
Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style
"Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"
I don't think that is a fair assessment. What he was really doing was waiting for his opponent to make a mistake he could exploit with a truly devastating and accurate punch.
Ali didn't often make mistakes.
I kinda miss boxing. UFC sucks. It’s the NASCAR of fighting sports. Those big fights when I was young were must see TV.
Until this guy named Tyson showed up and the main event was less than a minute.
Two points:
1) We never really got to see Ali in his prime. He was not allowed to fight from age 25 to 29 as his conscientious objector case went through the court system
2) Ali fought and beat Frazier, Foreman and Norton - guys who could hit every bit as hard as Tyson.
An in-prime Ali would have jabbed Tyson's freaking head off. He was so fast...you could see it in Ali's pre-1971 fights.
>Tyson was a straight ahead brawler---no thought or style
"Yur not so bad...yur not so bad"
>
don't agree. Speed, power, technique, he has it all. take a look at these clips. He's shorter than all of his opponents. He knows it, and knows what do do.
Does that mean he could have taking Ali? Who knows. Maybe.
also, you have to see this. Esp bmmike.
The NES game was called "Mike Tyson's Punchout", not Ali.
https://heavy.com/sports/2016/06/muhammad-ali-1960-olympics-gold-medal-dead-cassius-clay-rip/
This is a fun watch. At the age of 18, he was fighting real professionals at the Olympics as a light heavy weight. He kind of coasts along the championship fight until the middle of the third round when he turns it up.
Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee.
Floats like a butterfly for several rounds. Picks little wafting blows. Finally wears out his opponent.
Tyson steps in, stomps like a bull. Match over in seconds.
And if all else failed Ali would have been one ear short
Tyson steps in, gets hit with two jabs and a right cross faster than he could blink.