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How Utah is keeping the American Dream alive
Long, but worth a look.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-28/how-utah-keeps-the-american-dream-alive
Cliffs:
A vast private charity network which encourages giving but also incentivizes work.
getting and staying married.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-28/how-utah-keeps-the-american-dream-alive
Cliffs:
A vast private charity network which encourages giving but also incentivizes work.
getting and staying married.
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Screw you, I guess? I'm jut not sure any more.
Where is jbilly? Is he on Facebook?
From the article:
Ugh... The author got taken for a ride. Bigly. Charity network, my ****. They use the parishioners as slave labor and then sell the goods they produce for tax-free profits. Its tantamount to volunteering at gun point. If you are a pious LDS member you must do these things to ensure you get a good planet (yeah, look that up people) in the celestial kingdom. If you aren't pious, you risk losing your friends, family and social network by being shunned.
Holy gullible, Batman! Why is it that when people get their 'callings' the rich guys get to take on positions of prestige and decision making while someone lower on the socio-economic ladder miraculously gets called to be the ward house janitor. Why does the rich guy never get picked by god to clean the ****?
I do agree that marriage builds strong communities and provides upward mobility through stability. It is too bad that so many marriages in our nation end in divorce.
Look, they have some good ideas! The food storage thing is really pragmatic. The small government here must be doing something right because unemployment is so low. Also, the church/culture does foster in people a willingness to succeed. These people are hard working and driven by The American Dream. Capitalist dreams of success seems to be interwoven in the fabric here. These are good things that a lot of the rest of the nation seems to have forgotten.
I hear Zimbabwe is selling elephants----I think I'm buying one
Can I keep it at your place Shawn?......You can be king of the Mormons---I'll let ya drive him downtown---you can buy a big hat---Lots of room for wives---Hindu's think your cool---win--win
You can chain him to your driveway to scare away the symbolic republicans after you put the sign--"feel the Bern" on his back---oh the irony
Pull him up to the coffee shop drive-thru
You are now a Utah chick magnet----no need to thank me
I will say this. Prominent Utah families, like the Millers who own the Jazz as well as a vast auto dealership empire that extends all the way to California, do give a great deal to charity.
Yes. I had issue with that as well. It is a big homeless population here in SLC and Ogden.
Another point about the strong economy is, as you pointed out, the growth. This place is still growing like a weed. It would be impossible to screw that up if you are Utah's government. It's not all good though. And I'm not only referencing the seriously negative environmental effects. We'll maybe have that conversation when we go fishing next.
I hope to visit there soon someday. I have a good friend here in WI that owns a condo in SLC and I get an invite to go there every year for some biking and fishing. I just haven't been able to find the time to take him up on the offer yet.
The other nice thing is we do not have to deal with the problems of the rust belt. We do not have crumbling infrastructure. Thanks to all that growth, everything is brand spanking new. A lot of the growth does have to do with the fact that commercial real estate is a lot cheaper than traditional IT centers.
In short, it's the people. And not just the mormon ****. The people here just suck. Perhaps I'll delve deeper into it later but that's it in a nutshell.
Are most of your neighbors there Mormon?
I've moved across the country from the time I was young---guaranteed it's hard to fit into some new communities---cliques galore
Maybe that's why my wife/kids and myself are a tight knit group---we kept to ourselves lots---still very happy tho
Kewl!!
I'm all about that. As I get older winter is starting to wear on me. I hate winter more and more every year that goes by.
Kewl!!
I don't think I would have a problem with that.
Bushart,
Where we lived for the past 8 years was very mo. We had two sets of neighbors that we could talk to on the whole street. Well, three that were cool in total but the other ones were early 20's so we didn't have much in common.
We moved into Ogden last fall into an old established neighborhood. Very, very different vibe. Neighbors that we have met so far are non-mo and really nice so that is good. Its been a great decision thus far.
His wife (she was probably his second or third, so I'm betting there was a pre-nup) wasn't such a fan. She'd go on all these liberal volunteer boards and stuff just to torture the Mormons.
My Advice---baby steps in a new hood----Initially folks can seem nice---but take it in li'l increments---when we're kids--we make friends in a school yard---as adults it tends to be a bit more guarded
Where I live reflects my Credo....Many people are Fracked
When moving into a new area---be cautious of the "Overly friendly" stranger---some times (not always) they are the loon that was ostracized from the core group---and lookin for a buddy before the reg folks get hold of ya.
Life is fun...huh?
BTW I was going to ask when was the last day your ski area was open. But alas my ski season is over.
The good news I skied Alta today and there were no lift lines whatsoever. The snow wasn't as nice as January. I can also tell you the the ski patrolmen are really good people.
Funny we are discussing this. Just a received a text last night from my buddy that owns the condo there. He's out there right now for one last ski trip then returning back to WI for a bit then going back out there in June to fish and bike...to train for the Leadville 100 bike race. I got another invite to join him there in June for some fishing and biking...don't think I'll have the available vacation time to do it though.
what did you do?