Unaffordable Care Act

NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior MemberPosts: 9,936 Senior Member
Heard this story on NPR radio this morning...

But others say they dropped their Obamacare health coverage because they found the plans too confusing, too expensive or not worth it.

Brendan Skwire tells NPR his insurance was too pricey. "Basically, my premiums doubled when my income imploded," he says. "I simply couldn't afford to pay the bill."

Meanwhile, Vic Higgs of New York says the premiums and copays required in her current Obamacare plan are too expensive, relative to the small amount of medical care she uses each month. She plans to drop the plan in January.

"I only visit two doctors a year, and only receive one monthly prescription that — prior to having insurance — cost me 80 bucks a month," Higgs writes. "I think paying directly for the doctor visits and prescriptions is cheaper right now than having insurance."

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/10/30/452909204/obamacare-deploys-new-apps-allies-to-convince-the-uninsured
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  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    My in-laws became insured through the exchange last year. After subsidy they had to pay $25/month. They just received a letter this week that the premium is jumping to $125/month. Now they are thinking of just dropping insurance all together.
  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    Your inlaws sound like the type of people that marry into the families of clowns.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    ???

    No. They just don't have a lot of money.

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  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    Clowns make a lot of money because they have a higher education degree.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    Joe K. wrote: »
    Meanwhile, Vic Higgs of New York says the premiums and copays required in her current Obamacare plan are too expensive, relative to the small amount of medical care she uses each month. She plans to drop the plan in January.

    "I only visit two doctors a year, and only receive one monthly prescription that — prior to having insurance — cost me 80 bucks a month," Higgs writes. "I think paying directly for the doctor visits and prescriptions is cheaper right now than having insurance."

    Well then Vic Higgs is stupid and needs to be taught the meaning of the word insurance. I say if she gets sick, we let her die.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    Joe K. wrote: »
    My in-laws became insured through the exchange last year. After subsidy they had to pay $25/month. They just received a letter this week that the premium is jumping to $125/month. Now they are thinking of just dropping insurance all together.

    Again stupid, if they get sick, let them die.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    Well If the whole point is to make it affordable it appears it's not working for everyone.

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  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    As the Lodge's representative on the Death Panel, please have your inlaws call me immediately.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    Joe K. wrote: »
    Well If the whole point is to make it affordable it appears it's not working for everyone.

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    Maybe if they spent less money on cable and alcohol.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • EdBEdB Senior Member Posts: 2,920 Senior Member
    Again stupid, if they get sick, let them die.

    A true advocate of the evil money system speaks. The insurance/money system is a crime against humanity, it says let people die if they don't have the money for insurance. Good medical treatment for all citizens is available but denied to those who can't afford insurance. How evil is that?
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    Maybe if they spent less money on cable and alcohol.
    In laws don't have cable and they don't drink.

    Father in law works as a homebuilder for a small construction outfit that doesn't offer health insurance. Mother in law only works part time at a gift shop.

    But thanks for ripping on my relatives and referring to them as clowns and alcoholics.

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  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    I hope your inlaws get the help they need for their alcohol addiction, which is no joking matter. Is this covered under Obamacare?
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    Joe K. wrote: »
    In laws don't have cable and they don't drink.

    Father in law works as a homebuilder for a small construction outfit that doesn't offer health insurance. Mother in law only works part time at a gift shop.

    But thanks for ripping on my relatives and referring to them as clowns and alcoholics.

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    Clearly they are not budgeting then. Maybe a smaller house.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    EdB wrote: »
    A true advocate of the evil money system speaks. The insurance/money system is a crime against humanity, it says let people die if they don't have the money for insurance. Good medical treatment for all citizens is available but denied to those who can't afford insurance. How evil is that?

    Anything else would be socialism, and we don't want socialized medicine. People must die for freedom.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    Clearly they are not budgeting then. Maybe a smaller house.

    They rent cuz they can't afford to buy. They are in their low 60's right now and have only owned a home once (for about 5 years) in their lives.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    Well then rent smaller.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    If you actually cared about them, maybe you could give them the extra $100 a month for insurance. If you sold your fat bike, that would pay for around a year of insurance for them.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    BTW you may notice this is the same kind of crap you say about people on food stamps.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    Hextall wrote: »
    If you actually cared about them, maybe you could give them the extra $100 a month for insurance. If you sold your fat bike, that would pay for around a year of insurance for them.

    How much you want to bet they have tattoos?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    Hextall wrote: »
    If you actually cared about them, maybe you could give them the extra $100 a month for insurance. If you sold your fat bike, that would pay for around a year of insurance for them.
    Would you like to buy my fat bike?



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  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    How much you want to bet they have tattoos?
    Nope. Wrong again.

    I see you are good at stereotypes though.

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  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 23,298 Senior Member
    I learned from you.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    Can we get a copy of your inlaws' medical and financial records? I need more data before I can give a hoot about whether your theory that they can't afford an extra $100 a month on insurance.

    I also created this questionnaire that I'd like them to fill out:

    - you a great big fat person?
    - are you as disappointed as i am at your daughter's choice of spouse?
    - If you were part of a homebuilders union that provided affordable insurance, would you join?
    - Did Jesus ever get an **** in your opinion?
  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    Joe K. wrote: »
    Would you like to buy my fat bike?

    I'll give you $150 for it. Final offer.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    The only solution is to end the money system.

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  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    Not saying your inlaws are lazy leeches, but if they had any gumption at all, they could invent a time machine, kill baby ****, and then use all the money we're saving on having to keep Israel afloat on their insurance. Just sayin'.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    It's all fun and games until someone you know can't afford insurance.

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  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    Am I getting those records or not? I have to know how much to care about this.

    I think I'd also like to see their education records, including homework submitted to evaluate just how much effort they put into their education. I have a feeling they didn't give a **** when they were in school, didn't do all that well, and now those decisions are coming back to haunt them. Personal responsibility is truly dead.
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,936 Senior Member
    How much have you been drinking today?

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  • HextallHextall Senior Member Posts: 9,520 Senior Member
    I'm at brunch with your inlaws, and the mimosas are flowing! However, based on this thread, I'm a little worried about what's going to happen when the check arrives.

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