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Debating Guns Free zones
A couple of minor technical points first, they are not Guns Free, but Weapons Free, zones, since knives, etc. are also included.
The Chattanooga shooter was technically outside the zone, shooting into it. He MAY have been legally carrying - outside the zone.
But since Guns Free is the popular term we'll use it for clarity.
The Chattanooga shootings re-enforce the stance that all the GF zone did is prevent the victims from defending themselves. Armed, they could have responded.
If anyone were unhinged enough (and Comic may assert I already am unhinged, lol) enough to commit mass murder for whatever reason, politics, religion, moral (as in abortion clinic shootings) does anyone really think the shooter would be dissuaded by a sign that weapons are prohibited? Hell, that only encourages him in the knowledge they can't fight back. It's the old saw validated, when guns are outlawed only criminals will have guns, and then they will become rampant.
Obviously, I strongly support the 2nd Amendment, but no, I am not in the NRA and would support some gun control were I not afraid it would be the start of a slippery slope. I DON'T want guns in the hands of the mentally ill or felons, and I don't think anyone really needs full automatic for sporting purposes, I wish the laws already on the books were better enforced.
The Chattanooga shooter was technically outside the zone, shooting into it. He MAY have been legally carrying - outside the zone.
But since Guns Free is the popular term we'll use it for clarity.
The Chattanooga shootings re-enforce the stance that all the GF zone did is prevent the victims from defending themselves. Armed, they could have responded.
If anyone were unhinged enough (and Comic may assert I already am unhinged, lol) enough to commit mass murder for whatever reason, politics, religion, moral (as in abortion clinic shootings) does anyone really think the shooter would be dissuaded by a sign that weapons are prohibited? Hell, that only encourages him in the knowledge they can't fight back. It's the old saw validated, when guns are outlawed only criminals will have guns, and then they will become rampant.
Obviously, I strongly support the 2nd Amendment, but no, I am not in the NRA and would support some gun control were I not afraid it would be the start of a slippery slope. I DON'T want guns in the hands of the mentally ill or felons, and I don't think anyone really needs full automatic for sporting purposes, I wish the laws already on the books were better enforced.
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Exactly!
Gun free zones are a joke. According to our CC laws, I can carry my firearm anywhere except where the state says a I can't (schools, government buildings etc.). A sticker in a window of a private business is nothing but a joke.
You do get that a recruiting office is a government building, right?
To me a gun free zone should work like this, some people here will have guns, if you walk in here with one we will shoot you dead, no questions asked.
Not even remotely realistic. It was a drive by shooting, not the gunfight at the OK Corral. Gang members are always armed and yet they are murdered everyday without being given the opportunity to fight back. I think some gun folks believe the world operates like a western.
It's not ALL government buildings, only ones that are subject to federal or state law. I don't know if recruiting offices fall under that or not.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf
Let's see, we got a gunman that just got charged with 165 counts and he'll be kicking for years to come. Make it law that if a gun is used in a crime there is no appeal, just the death penalty to be carried out within 30 days. That would help too, but it will never happen.
Even if you knew you were going to get shot for walking in the door with a gun?
Agree, however, there should be a 30 day time limit for an appeal and its response, no need to drag the **** on indefinitely.
So do you have a plan to unclog the court system?
And a 3rd felony conviction should be an automatic death sentence, as opposed to keeping career criminals incarcerated for the rest of their lives, 30, 40 or more years at YOUR and MY tax expense.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-gun-shop-owner-declares-store-%e2%80%98muslim-free-zone%e2%80%99/ar-AAdhVCa?ocid=iehp
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