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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ Indicator View Post
    Are you waving goodbye to the individual mandate yet? I know my in-laws are.

    The White House believes most Americans will begin seeing higher paychecks in February, once employers have adjusted the amount of money that is withheld from paychecks.

    SAAAAAAWEEEEET!!!!


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.2a05dee7bc98
    So should they go to the emergency room, who is going to pay and how are they going to pay it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbilly View Post
    No idea what its like in Utah but around here you can't turn your head without seeing a help wanted/now hiring sign. If people actually want to work there are lots of jobs out there.

    Here are some article on places that are hiring:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...018/982616001/

    https://www.glassdoor.com/blog/compa...housands-2018/
    OMG those are ads for an employment site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn C. View Post
    Steven, While you are trying to wrap your head around what a progressive idea of governance should be, make sure to sell you car for a horse and and start cooking over an open hearth for the full-on 1787 experience.
    Originalism is so trite.
    This is truly inane. There's just no more to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishingcomic View Post
    So should they go to the emergency room, who is going to pay and how are they going to pay it?
    The people who pay this penalty for not having insurance generally have family income between $25-50k per year. Do you really think people in that range are CHOOSING not to buy family coverage that would cost a third of their income for a $14,300 deductible? If so, I understand your attitude of "slam the deadbeats with a penalty!" If, on the other hand, this family is making a rational choice to use the income they would have otherwise paid for insurance to pay for healthcare that they would be paying for anyway because of the deductibles, then slamming them with a penalty just adds to their problems.

    The number of people who can afford to pay for insurance and don't is small, and the penalty is so poorly designed that any of them who pay a good tax preparer can avoid it anyway.
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    The cost his in-laws were paying was quite reasonable, they just didn't want to pay it. BTW that is what I make and I pay insurance. Also in states that expanded Medicaid people making that little get insurance for free. In California my insurance would have been $60 per month for a silver plan.
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    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishingcomic View Post
    The cost his in-laws were paying was quite reasonable, they just didn't want to pay it. BTW that is what I make and I pay insurance. Also in states that expanded Medicaid people making that little get insurance for free. In California my insurance would have been $60 per month for a silver plan.
    My in-laws were paying over $500/month for insurance with a $6000 deductible. But then here's the kicker...when your income changes you're suppose to call in on this 1-800 number to report income changes...which my mother-in-law did every month...and then they are supposed to adjust the subsidy. Then come tax time last year and the gubment all of sudden has no record of her calling in and they are socked with a $10,000 tax bill and don't have that kind of money laying around. They ended up having to take out an unsecured loan to pay it back.

    Quite reasonable? Ha ha ha!!

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    At the time you posted it was $125 a month. So if you do not think they need to pay for insurance and you think that they should not have to pay for their medical costs (my mother would have owed almost a million dollars without Medicaid and Medicare), then you must believe in single payer. Which would mean Trump is not your guy. I pay almost $400 for my work insurance, but I guess I believe in personal responsibility.

    So again I ask if they need to go to the emergency room, who pays?
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    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

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    Did anyone happen to notice that Rhumbline made an appearance?

    Nice to see you again.

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    The bait was strong in this thread.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

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