Is This Really Necessary?
Green Mt Boy
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Trump Administration Rules That Nearly 200,000 Salvadorans Must Leave, Officials Say
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/us/salvadorans-tps-end.html
I get it that their admittance to the country was supposed to be temporary, but this seems harsh.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/us/salvadorans-tps-end.html
I get it that their admittance to the country was supposed to be temporary, but this seems harsh.
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We're at, or near, full employment. We need the workers.
That is what I am thinking. Moreover, the vast majority of these people, and the Haitians and Dreamers who are in the same predicament, are simply trying to do what all of our ancestors did--try to achieve the American Dream.
(see who gets that reference)
Yes but can you find 3 wise men?
Uhmmm...no.
No.
But outside of upholding the law (ten years late) is there a good reason for doing this? Will forcing these people back to El Salvador make life better or worse for the rest of us?
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It all goes to the larger issue of the fact that there are a lot of people in the country who either entered the country illegally or were admitted on a temporary basis, but have been here a long time and are productive members of society. I fully understand that cutting slack for them may encourage others to come. But, I think that a rigorous, i.e., challenging (no criminal record, documentation of long term presence in the country, etc) naturalization program would be OK.
Agree 100%.
Nor a virgin, if you are referring to the joke about about Jesus was supposed to have been born in ___________ (fill in the blank)
Don't see how it could be worse.
But let's suppose it didn't make things better or worse...it certainly makes things worse for the people we're deporting. From a utilitarian standpoint, why should we do it?
It makes no difference to us, and is a major negative to them. Does doing this make any sense?
"I'm inside, so it's OK to close the barn door" is another way of putting it.
Others wouldn't step in and take those jobs?
I guess I have mixed feelings on this. Why should we keep allowing exceptions to immigration? Kind of seems with immigrants that they think "if we can just get there and manage to stay under the radar long enough they will let us stay forever"
I hear you, but deporting people who came here legally, have been here for 10 years legally (not under the radar) and even have kids born here is closing the barn door long, long, long after the horse has left.
I get what you are saying though, that's why I have mixed feeling on the whole deal.
So basically it is not about economic impact with you. You just don't like immigrants.
99% of us are from immigrant heritage and our forbearers had to do just that. Stay under the radar and they could stay forever. You know what my great grandfather had to do to come her? Get on a boat. That's it.
Or maybe Joe just believes laws should be enforced. That's my takeaway from both Joe and Buford.