Sacred Harp

ricinusricinus Senior MemberPosts: 6,214 Senior Member
Is there a Jewish version?

Asking for a friend..

Mike
My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...

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  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    We are non denominational. I've sang with Jews, Catholics, Anabaptists, Protestants, even non believers.

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  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    I did not know that. I assumed it was a Southern Baptist thing..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 4,221 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    I did not know that. I assumed it was a Southern Baptist thing..

    Mike
    If you mean "Southern Baptist" as in the denomination, no. It's very, very, very rare to hear it done in a Southern Baptist Church.

    If you mean "Southern Baptist" as in Baptists in the South, well, it depends. More common it seems in Primitive Baptists, Independent Baptists, and such.
  • magallowaymagalloway Senior Member Posts: 818 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    Is there a Jewish version?

    I was raised Southern Baptist and I'm completely baffled at the term, could you explain, please?

    Never mind, I looked it up myself. I'd heard of it as 'Shape-note singing.' My understanding was that it was practiced mainly in rural areas by very traditional, 'hardshell' churches of various denominations.


    Jim
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    If you mean "Southern Baptist" as in the denomination, no. It's very, very, very rare to hear it done in a Southern Baptist Church.

    If you mean "Southern Baptist" as in Baptists in the South, well, it depends. More common it seems in Primitive Baptists, Independent Baptists, and such.

    I'm not sure. I followed a link on Facebook that popped up and it just said Southern Baptist as the origin. Can't find it now..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Might be my bad and have said Southern Protestant..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 4,221 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    I'm not sure. I followed a link on Facebook that popped up and it just said Southern Baptist as the origin. Can't find it now..

    Mike
    No worries. I was posting for information, not correction.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,912 Senior Member
    I can't say 100% for sure since I can't read music and don't know a whole lot about its intricacies.

    We have congregational singing (also choirs but usually just on the High Holy Days) led by a cantor. Most prayers are actually sung. Sometimes, the music is redone, so different temples may actually have different tunes, so that kind of sucks if you move and you're no longer singing tunes you really like. There are others that never ever will get redone (such as Kol Nidre, the opening prayer for Yom Kippur eve).

    There are no instruments used in Orthodox or Conservative temples, but instruments are used in Reform synagogues.

    Our music tends to be more haunting than either Roman Catholic (which just sucks by the way, at least in English) or Protestant. I guess a few thousand years of persecution, destruction and diaspora can do that.

    We have beautiful tunes like Kol Nidre, L'cha Dodi, Adon Alom, Ashrei, Etz Chaim, etc.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=eitz+chaim+song&&view=detail&mid=0C170966D33D85716D5A0C170966D33D85716D5A&&FORM=VDRVRV
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    I did not know that. I assumed it was a Southern Baptist thing..

    Mike

    No, it's a Baptist thing. As in, before the split between Primitive (original) Baptists, and Southern (new-fangled) Baptists. It has it's roots in England protestant hymnal singing. You are correct, in that it was confined to the south for many many generations. But with the advent of the internet, there are now Sacred Harp sings all over the country. We've sang in Alaska, Poland, the Twin Cities, New York, Chicago, Portland... These are all relatively young sings (only started in the last decade or so.) Our sing in my local town is 150 years old. I can trace it back through my family.
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    Here is a two part documentary on my family's sing that kind of tells the tale about how Sacred Harp spread across the country (and globe).

    Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9IYWYbqMVE&t=1s

    EDIT: Can't find the second part... gimme a tic.
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Thanks Buff, it's a good explanation..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    I do remember this video and your chair arranging abilities..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    I was all state my senior year.

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