No Snowflakes Please

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  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    No, **** boss. A leader would have said, "well let's go together." Then explained to her to bring a different set of clothes and also how that wording she used could be detrimental in a job setting.

    I don't know about doing the job for her, but he could have handled it better. I would not be surprised if she started looking for another job the very next day.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,070 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    I'm not saying she doesn't deserve a tune-up, just it was handled in the worse possible way.

    Mike

    Tough love is sometimes the best way to get your point across.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Very rarely
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    I don't know about doing the job for her, but he could have handled it better. I would not be surprised if she started looking for another job the very next day.

    I said WITH her, not for her. Lead by example.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    I said WITH her, not for her. Lead by example.


    I thank G-d everyday I grew up in the 60s and 70s.

    If she didn't understand the job or wasn't capable of doing it alone, then you do it with her.
    But she didn't want to get her shoes wet.

    Her shoes wet...we're talking about her shoes wet...we're not talking about a physical handicap, we're talking about her shoes getting wet.

    You snowflakes see the difference?
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Tough love is sometimes the best way to get your point across.

    ****..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    I thank G-d everyday I grew up in the 60s and 70s.

    If she didn't understand the job or wasn't capable of doing it alone, then you do it with her.
    But she didn't want to get her shoes wet.

    Her shoes wet...we're talking about her shoes wet...we're not talking about a physical handicap, we're talking about her shoes getting wet.

    You snowflakes see the difference?

    Quit being so mean to us.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    Doubt it, because he wouldn't be such an **** about it.

    Because I'm sure he inherited the manager's job at Safeway. Yeah, that's it.....

    Or...like most people. He went out there in the freaking rain when he was a young adult, got his shoes wet and now expects the same from his employees.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Quit being so mean to us.

    Tough love is sometimes the best way to get your point across.
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    I thank G-d everyday I grew up in the 60s and 70s.

    If she didn't understand the job or wasn't capable of doing it alone, then you do it with her.
    But she didn't want to get her shoes wet.

    Her shoes wet...we're talking about her shoes wet...we're not talking about a physical handicap, we're talking about her shoes getting wet.

    You snowflakes see the difference?

    Maybe the shoes were the first nice pair she ever had.
    Maybe she spend all her spare money buying them.
    I'm saying the manager is an **** for the way he handled it..

    Mike < looking out at 4 in of snowflakes..>
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    Here's an idea...put plastic bags around them. It's a freaking grocery store. Or check your **** phone for weather before you leave the house.

    ricinus wrote: »
    Mike < looking out at 4 in of snowflakes..>

    Serves you right.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    Maybe the shoes were the first nice pair she ever had.
    Maybe she spend all her spare money buying them.
    I'm saying the manager is an **** for the way he handled it..

    huh. Does this courtesy extend to the customers too, or should we just expect them to haul out their own groceries?

    I mean, her shoes might get wet, and they are her only nice pair.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    By the way, maybe the manager was having a bad day.

    Maybe his kid has cancer. Maybe his wife left him. Maybe the car battery died. Maybe...maybe...maybe...

    Life's harsh. Then you die.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 8,371 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Tough love is sometimes the best way to get your point across.

    Yes. But it does not require public humiliation. Captain Queeg is not a good role model.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • CO NativeCO Native Senior Member Posts: 825 Senior Member
    Okay, the store is swamped and they are short handed and the guy is doing the job of 3 people. He's supposed to walk her over to the office and be nice to her while customers are waiting? No, he handled it correctly for the situation.
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Here's an idea...put plastic bags around them. It's a freaking grocery store. Or check your **** phone for weather before you leave the house.




    Serves you right.

    I got my eff'n shoes wet too..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    Maybe I'm just a doormat. Too nice to people.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    Yes. But it does not require public humiliation. Captain Queeg is not a good role model.

    Buffy's a Ginger. He needs tough love.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    Maybe I'm just a doormat. Too nice to people.

    I would have yelled at her right on the spot for being a brat (yes, she's a brat).

    But I probably would have apologized later. That's just me.
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    CO Native wrote: »
    Okay, the store is swamped and they are short handed and the guy is doing the job of 3 people. He's supposed to walk her over to the office and be nice to her while customers are waiting? No, he handled it correctly for the situation.

    He could have told her to do it with out be a **** and humiliating her..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 1,549 Senior Member
    Modern forward thinking companies do not use public ridicule in motivating their employees. Full Stop

    This is page one of the leadership handbook.

    This is off the Safeway website---as "Why you should work for them".....I fail to see the Do it or else clause----the guy was an ****..period

    "At Safeway, we make sure our employees are well taken care of. We recognize that their hard work and dedication are the driving force behind our success, and we continually look for additional ways to reward them. Our employees enjoy competitive pay and excellent benefits, along with a positive work environment built on mutual respect and professionalism.

    Safeway has a strong reputation as a responsible corporate citizen and has long been committed to improving the quality of life in the communities we serve.
    Safeway recognizes the importance of balancing business with the environment. As a leader of sustainability initiatives in our industry, we have taken many proactive steps in reducing our carbon footprint. We have also created product lines to ensure the thoughtful use of natural resources, offering our customers the opportunity to do their part in protecting the environment, as well.
    At Safeway, we have a strong appreciation for the variety of backgrounds and characteristics that make individuals unique. As champions of diversity and inclusion, thoughtful people practices function at the core of our business philosophy.
    Our employees also have countless opportunities to grow personally and professionally. With numerous training programs and outlets for development, we ensure that our employees are continually strengthening their skill set and developing as individuals.
    We invite you to build and advance your career with Safeway and help contribute to the future success of our company."
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Here's an idea...put plastic bags around them. It's a freaking grocery store. Or check your **** phone for weather before you leave the house.

    Most grocery stores up here have parkas and boots available for staff working outside..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 1,846 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    Most grocery stores up here have parkas and boots available for staff working outside..

    Mike

    this

    and when i worked my 1st official job, i was a bagger at a grocery.....it was part of our job description to get carts


    the cashiers were mostly female, and dressed a little nicer.....and it was not part of their job description to get carts in the parking lot
    Fly Fishing in Maine - www.flyfishinginmaine.com
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    Most grocery stores up here have parkas and boots available for staff working outside..

    Mike

    So Princess was even more of a snowflake than previously thought?
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    tim_s wrote: »
    this

    and when i worked my 1st official job, i was a bagger at a grocery.....

    I was the last natural born American to work at a 7-11 in Los Angeles...
  • tim_stim_s Senior Member Posts: 1,846 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    I was the last natural born American to work at a 7-11 in Los Angeles...

    i picked vegetables during the summer at a local farm......rode my back 3-4 miles to get there, too.....starting when i was 12....for 2.50 an hour (plus $3 for each bushel of beans I picked haha)


    but bagging groceries was my first "real" job
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  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,070 Senior Member
    I'm surprised at the number of snowflakes inhabiting The Lodge.

    This girl (presumably a teenager) received nothing more than a reality check. It may not be pleasant, it may not be PC enough for the snowflake crowd but sometimes it's a necessary evil in order to make a point. My bet is that girl who stated "but it's cold out and I don't want to because it will ruin my shoes" never does that again and probably learned from it and moved on. Let's be realistic here...nobody is going to die going outside to collect carts in the snow/cold and the small amount of time spent doing it isn't going to ruin a pair of shoes. Sounds like she was just being whiny and thought she was "above" doing that job.

    I once had a disagreement with a boss about an issue at work. We were having a "lively" discussion about the issue at hand for about 15 minutes when the boss finally said to me "If you don't like the way we do things here, there's the door" BOOM! Lightbulb moment...they employ me...they are my livelyhood...they can get rid of me at anytime. The discussion ended and we both moved on. Not a big deal. Unless your the type of person that takes things to heart and gets all sad and angry and stuff...
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,070 Senior Member
    Bushart wrote: »
    This is off the Safeway website---as "Why you should work for them".....I fail to see the Do it or else clause----the guy was an ****..period

    "At Safeway, we make sure our employees are well taken care of. We recognize that their hard work and dedication are the driving force behind our success, and we continually look for additional ways to reward them. Our employees enjoy competitive pay and excellent benefits, along with a positive work environment built on mutual respect and professionalism.

    Safeway has a strong reputation as a responsible corporate citizen and has long been committed to improving the quality of life in the communities we serve.
    Safeway recognizes the importance of balancing business with the environment. As a leader of sustainability initiatives in our industry, we have taken many proactive steps in reducing our carbon footprint. We have also created product lines to ensure the thoughtful use of natural resources, offering our customers the opportunity to do their part in protecting the environment, as well.
    At Safeway, we have a strong appreciation for the variety of backgrounds and characteristics that make individuals unique. As champions of diversity and inclusion, thoughtful people practices function at the core of our business philosophy.
    Our employees also have countless opportunities to grow personally and professionally. With numerous training programs and outlets for development, we ensure that our employees are continually strengthening their skill set and developing as individuals.
    We invite you to build and advance your career with Safeway and help contribute to the future success of our company."

    That's just standard fluff plagerized over and over by numerous companies across the nation. The reality is it's rarely ever like that.
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    My view is an adult intimidated a teenager just to inflate his ego and demonstrate his limited authority.. I'll bet he watches O'Reilly too. What's with all this calling anyone who disagrees with you a snowflake BS? Bunch of Rightwads..



    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    This is crazy. She was acting like a brat, she got called on it, the end. Y'all act like this is some kind of internet startup where they everybody takes naps and worries about "corporate culture" and all manner of millennial ****. It isn't. Its an entry level job where you do what you're told.

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