How do the Trump voters feel now?

CuddyCuddy Senior MemberPosts: 344 Senior Member
America First, stay out of foreign affairs---- bomb Syria.
Repeal Obamacare----too hard
Label China a currency manipulator
changed mind
NATO is obsolete
change of heart
Mexico will pay for the wall
well, actually, no
Lock her up
not so fast
Ban Muslims
how's that working?
Working too much to play golf----FORE!!

I agree that he is actually keeping promises as well, but these are some whoppers that were touted at all those rallies.

There's also the whole Russian conspiracy thing, the crazy travel bills, and general confusion in the administration. Plus the nepotism and all the Tweeting.

Seriously--what's the overall consensus from you or your friends that voted for him? Any buyers remorse?
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  • Shawn C.Shawn C. Senior Member Posts: 5,298 Senior Member
    Well, I still can't find but a handful of idiots who admit to voting for him.

    Think of all the people who doggedly stick by their brand of car even though there has been a massive recall or safety issue. Most people are pretty brand loyal and hate to admit they are wrong.

    The person who may be experiencing the largest case of buyer's remorse is Vladimir Putin.
  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 1,549 Senior Member
    I blame the last election on the Dems----nothin doin they had to have Hillary----even up to cheating in the nomination

    So you reap what you sow

    Nuff blame to go round
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 2,799 Senior Member
    He was not Hillary. Had to choose one and I figured he was the lesser of two evils and a business man to boot. He is better than what we had or what we could have had.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie just look at the flowers.
  • Shawn C.Shawn C. Senior Member Posts: 5,298 Senior Member
    Yeah, the rightwads think they finally got the "business man" they been clamoring for. What they got instead is a snake oil selling life-long grifter.
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 2,799 Senior Member
    Shawn C. wrote: »
    Yeah, the rightwads think they finally got the "business man" they been clamoring for. What they got instead is a snake oil selling life-long grifter.

    Again it wasn't Hillary why is this so hard to understand.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie just look at the flowers.
  • FishTXFishTX Super Moderator Posts: 7,613 Senior Member
    Shawn C. wrote: »
    What they got instead is a snake oil selling life-long grifter.

    Why is this so hard to understand? ;)
    "We have to find someone who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner."

    Crooow:This music would work better with women in bikinis shaking all over the place. I guess that's true of any music really.
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 2,799 Senior Member
    FishTX wrote: »
    Why is this so hard to understand? ;)

    I like some of what he is selling. Hillary, nothing.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie just look at the flowers.
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    We will see about immigration "reform". I think a lot of people expect some serious action. No line up of buses to the border and I think its tough in 2018 for the repubs.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Bushart wrote: »
    I blame the last election on the Dems----nothin doin they had to have Hillary----even up to cheating in the nomination

    So you reap what you sow

    Nuff blame to go round

    There was no cheating and there is no way in hell a Socialist was going to win Ohio.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • NZ IndicatorNZ Indicator Senior Member Posts: 9,070 Senior Member
    Shawn C. wrote: »
    What they got instead is a snake oil selling life-long grifter.

    Kind of like the last guy. Not a fan of Trump either but sure am glad the Obama error is over.





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  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 1,549 Senior Member
    There was no cheating and there is no way in hell a Socialist was going to win Ohio.

    1st off--I'm not even close to being a Trump fan

    But this statement may be a hard sell to Bernie supporters---and why did the head of the DNC resign again?
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    There was no cheating and there is no way in hell a Socialist was going to win Ohio.

    Glad to see this, since I'm picking up a serious Bernie-nostalgia vibe on the left as of late. Its amazing to me the number of people that think that if Bernie were the nominee, he would have won.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    Bushart wrote: »
    1st off--I'm not even close to being a Trump fan

    But this statement may be a hard sell to Bernie supporters---and why did the head of the DNC resign again?

    What's the allegation of cheating? How exactly did she cheat?
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 8,371 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    What's the allegation of cheating? How exactly did she cheat?

    Not her specifically, but the DNC worked against Sanders and for her. All that came out in the Wikileaks emails, most likely courtesy of the Russians.

    Keep in mind though, that Hillary was such a deeply flawed candidate that she lost 23 primaries to an aging Jewish socialist with a strong Brooklyn accent, although Superdelegates gave her six of those states back at the convention, with one tie.

    I still predict that the Repubs will try to come up with a variation on Superdelegates to try to avoid a repeat of the 2016 primary debacle. Unfortunately, the base now is so firmly Know Nothing that it won't work.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    George K wrote: »
    Not her specifically, but the DNC worked against Sanders and for her. All that came out in the Wikileaks emails, most likely courtesy of the Russians.

    Keep in mind though, that Hillary was such a deeply flawed candidate that she lost 23 primaries to an aging Jewish socialist with a strong Brooklyn accent, although Superdelegates gave her six of those states back at the convention, with one tie.

    I still predict that the Repubs will try to come up with a variation on Superdelegates to try to avoid a repeat of the 2016 primary debacle. Unfortunately, the base now is so firmly Know Nothing that it won't work.

    I don't know that I would call that "cheating." It was important to the DNCC that they nominate an electable candidate. And I know that there's a lot of love for Bernie right now, but let's be real: Clinton, despite her flaws, almost won. Bernie wouldn't even have come close in the general. The oppo on him is terrible and there's 30 years of it. He stole power from his neighbor at one point, he's never had a real job, he prefers government largesse to private charity (he actually said that), he supported countless thugs and revolutionaries over the years, and I haven't even talked about what he actually believes, which is next-level crazy.

    I've been wrong about a lot the last few months, but I'm confident that Bernie would have come in for a McGovern-style ****-whuppin. I've had my faith in this country tested in all sorts of ways lately, but I still believe that.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 8,371 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    I don't know that I would call that "cheating." It was important to the DNCC that they nominate an electable candidate. And I know that there's a lot of love for Bernie right now, but let's be real: Clinton, despite her flaws, almost won. Bernie wouldn't even have come close in the general. The oppo on him is terrible and there's 30 years of it. He stole power from his neighbor at one point, he's never had a real job, he prefers government largesse to private charity (he actually said that), he supported countless thugs and revolutionaries over the years, and I haven't even talked about what he actually believes, which is next-level crazy.

    I've been wrong about a lot the last few months, but I'm confident that Bernie would have come in for a McGovern-style ****-whuppin. I've had my faith in this country tested in all sorts of ways lately, but I still believe that.

    I agree he would have lost badly. But the DNC was supposed to have been neutral and it was not, and the Dems put forth a lousy candidate who ran a lousy campaign. Both parties were caught off guard by the level of grass roots discontent that allowed Sanders to win 23 primaries, and Trump the election. Almost completely out of touch in the case of the Democrats, who seemed to have learned nothing and have kept the same leadership establishment while adding a little lefty window dressing.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    The Republicans were neutral and look what happened. I must say, given the staggering level of incompetence manifested by the voter's choice, that a smoke-filled back room and a list of names on a napkin would have been preferable.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 8,371 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    The Republicans were neutral and look what happened. I must say, given the staggering level of incompetence manifested by the voter's choice, that a smoke-filled back room and a list of names on a napkin would have been preferable.

    Yup.


    Except, er, wasn't that how we were supposed to get Bush v. Clinton 2016? You know what they say about the best planned lays of mice and men...
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • Green Mt BoyGreen Mt Boy Senior Member Posts: 614 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    I don't know that I would call that "cheating." It was important to the DNCC that they nominate an electable candidate. And I know that there's a lot of love for Bernie right now, but let's be real: Clinton, despite her flaws, almost won. Bernie wouldn't even have come close in the general. The oppo on him is terrible and there's 30 years of it. He stole power from his neighbor at one point, he's never had a real job, he prefers government largesse to private charity (he actually said that), he supported countless thugs and revolutionaries over the years, and I haven't even talked about what he actually believes, which is next-level crazy.

    I've been wrong about a lot the last few months, but I'm confident that Bernie would have come in for a McGovern-style ****-whuppin. I've had my faith in this country tested in all sorts of ways lately, but I still believe that.

    I agree with this assessment of my Senator. I am definitely in the minority in my state. He walks on water here.

    I don't mind, and am in fact glad he is in the Senate-his perspective should be in the mix. But President? No way.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    I'm becoming a little more remorseful that I didn't vote for him, to be honest.

    He's still got a ways to go, but he's becoming an establishment Republican. Now if he would just consult first with Mnuchin and Cohn before blabbing off to the WSJ...
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    Our countries best leadership chance went away when Biden's son passed away. While Joe had his embarrassing moments, his cred with the workers would have won out, and he wouldn't have taken any crap from the orange one. It would have been a fantastic debate series! And he would have been a fine pres. given his experience. Now the Dems have to find some younger talent. Warren is old also.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    I'm becoming a little more remorseful that I didn't vote for him, to be honest.

    He's still got a ways to go, but he's becoming an establishment Republican. Now if he would just consult first with Mnuchin and Cohn before blabbing off to the WSJ...

    He needs and his people need to show some steadiness. During the campaign China was a currency manipulator; now they aren't. Bombing Syria was a terrible idea in 2013. Now it isn't. And so on.

    One could say its a virtue that he changes his mind (as we all should when the facts change), but most things in politics aren't fact-specific, and since Trump doesn't hold any positions, what does he stand for? What does his administration stand for? I think its great that we are gonna get a couple of Federal judges, but not if it means the GOP doesn't exist when this all washes out.
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    He will be an establishment repub until its convenient for him not to be. They say markets and investors hate uncertainty, not to mention allies. Got to think this problem will create adverse results eventually.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    One could say its a virtue that he changes his mind (as we all should when the facts change), but most things in politics aren't fact-specific, and since Trump doesn't hold any positions, what does he stand for? What does his administration stand for? I think its great that we are gonna get a couple of Federal judges, but not if it means the GOP doesn't exist when this all washes out.

    You really, really need to calm down on the death of the Republican Party stuff. We didn't get Change! with Obama. We're not going to get it with Trump.

    I said from the start, Trump's not an idiot. What he is, is a brand new rookie. He's wising up and figuring out that his ability to do things are limited by certain realities - e.g. you can't go nuts on China because they're the lid on N. Korea or having to deal with the Freedom Caucus. He'll make small changes within the lines of reality and that's it.
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    creekguy wrote: »
    He will be an establishment repub until its convenient for him not to be. They say markets and investors hate uncertainty, not to mention allies. Got to think this problem will create adverse results eventually.

    He'll be an establishment Republican because he has to be.
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    You really, really need to calm down on the death of the Republican Party stuff. We didn't get Change! with Obama. We're not going to get it with Trump.

    I said from the start, Trump's not an idiot. What he is, is a brand new rookie. He's wising up and figuring out that his ability to do things are limited by certain realities - e.g. you can't go nuts on China because they're the lid on N. Korea or having to deal with the Freedom Caucus. He'll make small changes within the lines of reality and that's it.

    I told one of my employees she needed to relax once. Her reply: I don't relax.

    :)
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    Its a fair point, though. We could all stand to calm down. The social media bubble ramps up the apocalyptic thinking to 11 on everything. I'm no more immune to it than anyone else.

    For example: that Pepsi commercial which was supposedly so bad and "tone deaf" and all that? Turns out people liked it. Social media hated it, and its easy to confuse the outrage there with outrage generally.

    I think United tho has a legit PR problem :)
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    Even that is overwrought. You think anybody with any kind of United status is suddenly going to go to American out of outrage?
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Even that is overwrought. You think anybody with any kind of United status is suddenly going to go to American out of outrage?

    I'm just saying United sucks. Pepsi sucks too, but it doesn't fill me with rage to drink a Pepsi. And I'm not a person you want raging at you.

    <flexes lats>
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Steven wrote: »
    Even that is overwrought. You think anybody with any kind of United status is suddenly going to go to American out of outrage?

    The outrage lasts till the cheapest fare..

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
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