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  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    I know because in order to be classified a terrorist one has to be brown.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

    Most of the attacks in this country are native born citizens.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BushartBushart Senior Member Posts: 1,549 Senior Member
    I know because in order to be classified a terrorist one has to be brown.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

    Most of the attacks in this country are native born citizens.

    I read this article and can only conclude.....People are frigged---the end

    (Cept you all--who ya know I consider just like my sisters :) )
  • MikeAMikeA Senior Member Posts: 2,469 Senior Member
    I know because in order to be classified a terrorist one has to be brown.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

    Most of the attacks in this country are native born citizens.

    Don't you guys just love those old pre Trump stories about the Republican Party crumbling apart and full of radicals waiting to riot and take their mobs to the street? Ahhh,,, good old nostalgic fake news served with a nice side of irony...
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    Let me be clear about my feelings on this.

    I’m glad out President stopped it from happening here.
    Yep. Thanks Obama. Really.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    Don't you guys just love those old pre Trump stories about the Republican Party crumbling apart and full of radicals waiting to riot and take their mobs to the street? Ahhh,,, good old nostalgic fake news served with a nice side of irony...

    They couldn't get their most important agenda item passed. How are they not falling apart?
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 2,799 Senior Member
    I know because in order to be classified a terrorist one has to be brown.

    What the hell was Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski? You need to check your work.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie just look at the flowers.
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 8,371 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    Don't you guys just love those old pre Trump stories about the Republican Party crumbling apart and full of radicals waiting to riot and take their mobs to the street? Ahhh,,, good old nostalgic fake news served with a nice side of irony...

    The United Party of Trump, formerly known as the GOP did a stunningly great job of uniting and repealing Obamacare. Let's see how they do at additional tax cuts for the rich, the next item on the agenda,

    Just sayin'. :)
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    What the hell was Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski? You need to check your work.

    Alert: Comic loves sarcasm.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    To many here they were just crazy lone wolves and not terrorists.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    They weren't killing in the name of Christianity. The other group is killing for a religion.

    Kinda makes it easy to figure this one out.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    And that makes a difference how? They were killing in the name of a belief system. Maybe we should prevent all conservatives from coming into this country as well.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    “We are not afraid,” declared Prime Minister Theresa May after the latest Islamist horror on Westminster Bridge. She went on about the importance of being “normal.” It’s a very British response to terrorism. It’s called stoicism — a quality unknown, it appears, in the home of the “brave.” Perhaps its highest moment of sangfroid was when the IRA bombed the very hotel in Brighton where the prime minister and much of her cabinet were staying while attending their annual party conference in 1981. Thatcher herself would have been killed if she had been in a different room in her hotel suite. A leading cabinet member had to be hauled out of rubble. Nonetheless, the next day, Thatcher, utterly undaunted, got up and gave her speech — almost as if nothing had happened. A few days later, she insisted: “We suffered a tragedy not one of us could have thought would happen in our country. And we picked ourselves up and sorted ourselves out as all good British people do.” Keep calm and carry on, and all that.

    Compare this with, say, the reaction to the Boston marathon bombing. An entire city was brought to a standstill and locked down, while the pursuit of a deranged, unarmed teenager continued. You can understand that, I suppose, given that the suspect was still at large. But to subsequently celebrate the event with the slogan “Boston Strong” was perverse. The truth was: “Boston ****-Scared.”

    The response of Americans to terror is to be terrified — 9/11’s trauma has never been fully exorcised. Until we get over that, until we manage to stiffen our upper lips like the Brits, jihadist terrorists will exercise control over the American psyche like no one else. We can do better, can’t we? If we want the Constitution to survive both Islamism’s threat and the potential response of a beleaguered Trump, we’ll have to.


    Indeed.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/sullivan-is-political-gravity-finally-sinking-donald-trump.html
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    And that makes a difference how? They were killing in the name of a belief system. Maybe we should prevent all conservatives from coming into this country as well.

    They were killing because of their beliefs about the corruption of government. We should ban the government.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Just like to point out that the KKK consider themselves a religious organization defending white christian values.

    Not all conservatives are right wing terrorists, but all right wing terrorists are conservatives.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    They were killing because of their beliefs about the corruption of government. We should ban the government.

    So you sympathize with right wing terrorists? Maybe we should put you on a watch list.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    So you sympathize with right wing terrorists? Maybe we should put you on a watch list.

    I don't sympathize with terrorists, no. Despite your attempt to strawman, my point was Islamic radicals are killing in the name of Islam. So we ban Muslims. Problem solved.
  • MikeAMikeA Senior Member Posts: 2,469 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    “We are not afraid,” declared Prime Minister Theresa May after the latest Islamist horror on Westminster Bridge. She went on about the importance of being “normal.” It’s a very British response to terrorism. It’s called stoicism — a quality unknown, it appears, in the home of the “brave.” Perhaps its highest moment of sangfroid was when the IRA bombed the very hotel in Brighton where the prime minister and much of her cabinet were staying while attending their annual party conference in 1981. Thatcher herself would have been killed if she had been in a different room in her hotel suite. A leading cabinet member had to be hauled out of rubble. Nonetheless, the next day, Thatcher, utterly undaunted, got up and gave her speech — almost as if nothing had happened. A few days later, she insisted: “We suffered a tragedy not one of us could have thought would happen in our country. And we picked ourselves up and sorted ourselves out as all good British people do.” Keep calm and carry on, and all that.

    Compare this with, say, the reaction to the Boston marathon bombing. An entire city was brought to a standstill and locked down, while the pursuit of a deranged, unarmed teenager continued. You can understand that, I suppose, given that the suspect was still at large. But to subsequently celebrate the event with the slogan “Boston Strong” was perverse. The truth was: “Boston ****-Scared.”

    The response of Americans to terror is to be terrified — 9/11’s trauma has never been fully exorcised. Until we get over that, until we manage to stiffen our upper lips like the Brits, jihadist terrorists will exercise control over the American psyche like no one else. We can do better, can’t we? If we want the Constitution to survive both Islamism’s threat and the potential response of a beleaguered Trump, we’ll have to.


    Indeed.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/sullivan-is-political-gravity-finally-sinking-donald-trump.html
    I agree with that sediment Sherb. I don’t think the author is being honest about America however. When they flew planes full of people into buildings full of people and into the pentagon we didn’t start a roundup. We didn’t’ cower in fear. The question I have is how many times do we turn the other cheek? What is an acceptable amount of terror for everyone? Do we wait till they figure out how to detonate a dirty bomb in a major city?
  • sherbsherb Senior Member Posts: 1,639 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    I agree with that sediment Sherb. I don’t think the author is being honest about America however. When they flew planes full of people into buildings full of people and into the pentagon we didn’t start a roundup. We didn’t’ cower in fear.

    We didn't exactly cover ourselves in glory, either.
    MikeA wrote: »
    The question I have is how many times do we turn the other cheek? What is an acceptable amount of terror for everyone? Do we wait till they figure out how to detonate a dirty bomb in a major city?

    Ideally the number of dead victims from any terrorist activity would be zero. But there are legitimate tradeoffs to consider. You cannot simultaneously claim the mantle of liberty and reduce terror deaths to zero. I wish you could. But I have to ask you: how do you define turning the other cheek? I don't think anyone could accuse any of the last three administrations of that.
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    In all seriousness, there's not much you can do. If a burglar is going to break into your home at night, you cannot know when he's going to do it. But that's why you have a gun.

    And we have lots of guns.

    Like it or not, terrorism is a way of life. We're just not accustomed to it like they are in Europe. Accustomed isn't the right word, I'm not suggesting we accept it. But until it happens, what can you do? The same with protecting your own life and property. Be smart, lock your doors, teach your daughters to fight like hell, and keep your Roscoe stoked with some semi jacketed hollow points.
  • creekguycreekguy Senior Member Posts: 3,905 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    I agree with that sediment Sherb. I don’t think the author is being honest about America however. When they flew planes full of people into buildings full of people and into the pentagon we didn’t start a roundup. We didn’t’ cower in fear. The question I have is how many times do we turn the other cheek? What is an acceptable amount of terror for everyone? Do we wait till they figure out how to detonate a dirty bomb in a major city?

    Hey Mike, tell EdB that we "turn the other cheek"! Yeah, while we drop bombs on villages of suspected "people who don't like us", killing women and children in the process. You call that "turning the other cheek?
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    and keep your Roscoe stoked with some semi jacketed hollow points.

    Roscoe? Are you watching TCM again?

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    ricinus wrote: »
    Roscoe? Are you watching TCM again?

    Mike
    I have many pet names. Roscoe, Hog Leg, Heater, Shirley.
  • ricinusricinus Senior Member Posts: 6,214 Senior Member
    I'd like to hear that warning:

    "Back off or I'll let you have it with my Shirley's."

    Mike
    My new goal in life is to become an Alter Kaker...
  • George KGeorge K Super Moderator Posts: 8,371 Senior Member
    sherb wrote: »
    “We are not afraid,” declared Prime Minister Theresa May after the latest Islamist horror on Westminster Bridge. She went on about the importance of being “normal.” It’s a very British response to terrorism. It’s called stoicism — a quality unknown, it appears, in the home of the “brave.” Perhaps its highest moment of sangfroid was when the IRA bombed the very hotel in Brighton where the prime minister and much of her cabinet were staying while attending their annual party conference in 1981. Thatcher herself would have been killed if she had been in a different room in her hotel suite. A leading cabinet member had to be hauled out of rubble. Nonetheless, the next day, Thatcher, utterly undaunted, got up and gave her speech — almost as if nothing had happened. A few days later, she insisted: “We suffered a tragedy not one of us could have thought would happen in our country. And we picked ourselves up and sorted ourselves out as all good British people do.” Keep calm and carry on, and all that.

    Compare this with, say, the reaction to the Boston marathon bombing. An entire city was brought to a standstill and locked down, while the pursuit of a deranged, unarmed teenager continued. You can understand that, I suppose, given that the suspect was still at large. But to subsequently celebrate the event with the slogan “Boston Strong” was perverse. The truth was: “Boston ****-Scared.”

    The response of Americans to terror is to be terrified — 9/11’s trauma has never been fully exorcised. Until we get over that, until we manage to stiffen our upper lips like the Brits, jihadist terrorists will exercise control over the American psyche like no one else. We can do better, can’t we? If we want the Constitution to survive both Islamism’s threat and the potential response of a beleaguered Trump, we’ll have to.


    Indeed.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/sullivan-is-political-gravity-finally-sinking-donald-trump.html

    Sadly this is all too true. My wife and I just returned from two weeks visiting friends and relatives in FL and GA. Our first stop was Wellington, about 20 minutes from the West Palm airport, and about 45 minutes from the Ft Lauderdale airport. Because of the recent shootings there we flew from Baltimore to Ft. Lauderdale for $68 each, less than half what it would have cost to fly to West palm or Jacksonville. We also saved about $200 renting a car for two weeks.

    My kids, who fondly remember watching tracers flying over our house during a failed coup attempt in Seoul in the late '70s laugh at the timidity of their friends and fellow citizens who are afraid to drink the water or drive in England and Western Europe, much less go there after any incident.
    Keep your stinkin' government hands off my Medicare.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Buffco wrote: »
    I don't sympathize with terrorists, no. Despite your attempt to strawman, my point was Islamic radicals are killing in the name of Islam. So we ban Muslims. Problem solved.

    And right wing terrorists are killing in the name of conservatism, so we ban conservatives, problem solved.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    MikeA wrote: »
    I agree with that sediment Sherb. I don’t think the author is being honest about America however. When they flew planes full of people into buildings full of people and into the pentagon we didn’t start a roundup. We didn’t’ cower in fear. The question I have is how many times do we turn the other cheek? What is an acceptable amount of terror for everyone? Do we wait till they figure out how to detonate a dirty bomb in a major city?

    Great Britain has suffered more terrorist attacks in the past few years than we have.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • BuffcoBuffco Senior Member Posts: 9,571 Senior Member
    And right wing terrorists are killing in the name of conservatism, so we ban conservatives, problem solved.
    I don't recall that being the rallying cry.

    Islamic terrorists, however... We all know exactly what they say. Every. Single. Time.
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    Tell me what is the difference between killing for conservatism and killing for a religion? I don't care if you recall a rallying cry. Is it because you are a conservative and not a Muslim? At this very moment there are thousands of Muslims that are on the front line fighting ISIS.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan
  • StevenSteven Senior Member Posts: 1,918 Senior Member
    Tell me what is the difference between killing for conservatism and killing for a religion?

    Conservative terrorist killing for conservatism:

    In the name of Milton Friedman, I slice off your head!

    [/slices off liberal's head]

    There is no free lunch!
  • fishingcomicfishingcomic Senior Member Posts: 21,204 Senior Member
    They don't slice off your head, they shoot you in a church pew right in front of your wife and kids.
    'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

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